If one needs to daven mincha and the only minyan that is close by is davening an early maariv can one daven their mincha shmoneh esri with their maariv shmoneh esri and then daven maariv with a different minyan later? I remember seeing this idea somewhere (sources please).

  • I believe this is a duplicate...
    – Seth J
    Commented Jul 8, 2012 at 3:02
  • @SethJ please find it and I will delete it.
    – sam
    Commented Jul 8, 2012 at 3:21
  • I'm lookin' but I can't find it. Maybe it's not.
    – Seth J
    Commented Jul 8, 2012 at 3:38
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    @sam even if it is a dupe, you don't need to delete just close. dupes can be useful as signposts to the main q.
    – Double AA
    Commented Jul 8, 2012 at 4:19
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    Can this question be generalized to "Can I still accomplish Tefillah beTzibbur if I'm praying a different prayer than the rest of the Tzibbur?" or is there something about Mincha/Maariv that I'm missing?
    – Double AA
    Commented Jul 8, 2012 at 4:21

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The Shaar Hatziyon (591:13) writes that if one is alone on Rosh Hashanah, one should try to daven at the same time as the tzibbur, and davening shacharis when they're doing mussaf isn't good enough.

Perhaps one can derive from here that tefillah betzibur must involve the individual and the congregation reciting the same tefillah.

  • I seem to recall a similar point made in a story about R Chaim of Brisk
    – Double AA
    Commented May 13, 2014 at 2:14

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