If I understand correctly, different animal sacrifices had different amounts of flour & oil to be brought with them:

Measured in (eiphas of flour / hins of oil):

  • bull: 0.6
  • ram: 0.6
  • sheep: 0.4

Has anyone ever checked if these different ratios still hold together?

  • 1
    Do you have any reason to assume not? It sounds pretty oily to me.
    – Double AA
    Commented Mar 20, 2012 at 18:25
  • why are you assuming that the flour and oil was mixed together into a dough? The recipe mentioned in this question says: Pour 2 cups of all-purpose flour and 1/8 tsp. of baking powder in a large bowl. Blend the ingredients with your hands. Add 1/3 cup of ... vegetable shortening, if desired. Knead the mixture until you have a crumbly texture. -- judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/15210/… -- perhaps the mincha offering was the same.
    – Menachem
    Commented Mar 20, 2012 at 19:43
  • 1
    Well, efah is 72 log, and hin is 12 log, so it's 18:5 flour to oil for the thicker, assuming the log are equal (?). Figure like 3-plus cups flour to one cup oil. Sounds reasonable, batter-y.
    – yitznewton
    Commented Mar 20, 2012 at 20:41
  • 3
    Let's see what our good friends over here think: cooking.stackexchange.com/q/22456/8291
    – Double AA
    Commented Mar 21, 2012 at 5:04
  • 3
    Here's a 3:1 AP flour/canola mixture. I forgot to use olive oil. flickr.com/photos/54284792@N02/6856560218
    – yitznewton
    Commented Mar 21, 2012 at 12:16

1 Answer 1


Indeed, as Menachem commented, it's not necessary to assume that they were made into a dough. No kometz (handful) was taken from such menachos (see Rambam, Hil. Pesulei Hamukdashin 18:8), so it may not have mattered much whether it could hold together as a solid. (With private menachos, on the other hand, the ratio was 1/10 eifah flour (7.2 log) to 1 log oil, which would probably make for a pretty stiff dough.)

There is also the case where the kometz of a regular minchah gets mixed up with a minchas nesachim (Menachos 22a), where R. Yehudah points out that "they absorb [oil] from each other" - and Rashi there (ד"ה והן בולעות) notes that it's not really "each other," rather that the kometz will absorb oil from the minchas nesachim. This also suggests that the latter is more crumbly (or perhaps, as yitznewton said, batter-y), otherwise the oil wouldn't be wicked up out of it so easily.

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .