There are many stories that are told over about the people who lived in Chelm. They all have the theme of: the people in Chelm were fairly unintelligent. Where did this come from? Is it true? It sounds highly unlikely that a whole city would be more unintelligent then the next city.

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    And the neighboring town is Lublin, in which the yeshiva was called "Chachmei (wise men of) Lublin." Always wondered how that fit in...
    – Shalom
    Mar 16, 2010 at 13:40
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    There may have been some rivalry or something. Perhaps people from Lublin looked down upon Chelmites?
    – Seth J
    Apr 28, 2011 at 16:12
  • See this article It appears that the local inhabitants were not amused by this characterization, and had some witty one liners to those who insulted them.
    – mevaqesh
    Oct 10, 2016 at 3:41

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I've always speculated that it came from the fact that at one time Chelm had a very wise rabbi, named R' Shlomo (d. 1717). He is famous for his book Mirkeves Hamishneh, a commentary on the Rambam's Yad Hachazakah; appended to it is a work called Kuntreis Breichos Becheshbon, which analyzes difficult mathematical problems in the Torah. (Parts of the latter have been adapted into English under the title "Approaching Infinity," by M. Littman.)

So conceivably, by comparison to R' Shlomo, everyone else in Chelm seemed like a fool!

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    Is it possible that it was meant as a sarcastic joke? In the way that the gemara refers to someone as "Moshe" when they said something deemed unlikely, and the way we use "Einstein" to refer to someone not so smart. Could it work the other way, that originally Chelm had a reputation for great scholars like you mentioned, so people sarcastically referred to them as being stupid?
    – Curiouser
    Aug 4, 2011 at 21:17
  • @Curiouser: could be, I guess. In that case, it's also conceivable that chassidim had something to do with it, because this same R. Shlomo was known for his sharp opposition to the movement.
    – Alex
    Aug 5, 2011 at 20:44

I heard that the reason was because they were a Chassidic city, and in "popular culture", chassidim weren't known to be smart.

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    But then, why wouldn't the stereotype have focused on any of the many other towns in Eastern Europe that were the seats of various chassidic dynasties?
    – Alex
    Aug 5, 2011 at 20:45

According to my Lithuanian grandparents, Chelm was a joke name used to make fun of Kelm.

The city of Chelm is located in Poland, while the city of Kelm (Kelmé) is located in Lithuania. I don't recall if a reason was given for the switching of names, whether it has to do with mocking Polish in general or whether it was simply a matter of mispronouncing the name so as to aggravate and mock the Kelmites.

Kelm was home to one of the outstanding Yeshivas in its time, the Yeshiva of Kelm, or Talmud Torah of Kelm.

This mockery was originally started by Maskilim trying to ridicule the Bnei Torah who learned there.

Looking here you will see how many famous Rabbis actually learned there.

However people who don't know better and would never mock Bnei Torah seemed to have picked up on this joke and continued it without realizing how it started.

(Perhaps the strong association of this Yeshiva with the Mussar helped this trend, but that is my own speculation.)


A lady from Chelm mentioned in the Jewish Tribune about thirty years ago that it was very embarrasing telling people you were from Chelm when you went to Warsaw.


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