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It seems to be common knowledge that on or around the year 6,000 of the Jewish calendar "everything" (left intentionally vague) will come to an end and there will be a 1,000 year 'Shabbos'. I'm looking for an explanation as to why this is necessarily so. Meaning, why should things ever come to and end at all?

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  • I am not certain that this tradition about when the Moshiach must come is necessarily more definitive than other potential/auspicious times.
    – Yirmeyahu
    Feb 21, 2012 at 17:15
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    It's valid enough to base the question explicitly on what "seems to be common knowledge." Good answers would probably start by verifying whether this common knowledge is backed up in the sources.
    – Isaac Moses
    Feb 21, 2012 at 17:17
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    So tempted to make a Mayan 2012 joke here, but I will refrain
    – Zachary K
    Feb 23, 2012 at 6:21
  • OK, so I know that this world has been in existence for nearly billions of years now. And as we know that things change, it will not only be that this world will end as we know. But, is it true that the world will end by the year 7000?
    – user1590
    Jun 7, 2012 at 10:41
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    @BrendanWilliams, that seems like a solid question to ask on its own.
    – Seth J
    Jun 7, 2012 at 13:09

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I wondered about this fact myself for a while, and so I looked up the sources.

It turns out that this idea is based on only two sources.

The Talmud has an aggadatot which says:

Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin [97a]: “Rav Kattina said: ‘The world will exist for 6000 years and one (thousand) of destruction’ ... We have a teaching which is in agreement with Rav Kattina, as the seventh is the sabbatical year – one in seven years. Likewise the world will rest 1,000 in 7000 … ‘a thousand years in Your eyes are like yesterday which has passed …’ [Psalms 90:4].”

Talmud, Tractate Avodah Zarah [9a]: “The world will exist for six thousand years: two millennia of void (‘tohu’); Two millennia of Torah; and then two millennia of the age of Moshiach.”

However, the context of these statements are ones which in my mind, prove to be false certainties. (Not that they are false, but to state that they are certain is false) The midrashim can certainly be understood in different ways, and if understood literally, these midrashim have proven so far, to be false. Arguments against the general idea, being a "necessity" can be found here: Basically, we have "conflicting midrashim", as well as knowledge that the physical planet is not only 5772 years old.

I should add, that there is an opinion that there have been many 7,000 year cycles already. (mentioned in the link above, in some midrashim) So the fact that things rise and fall, and come in cycles is no chidush to the world we live in. The idea that once the 7,000 year cycle is over, that there will be no more cycles after that, is also unfounded. In some ways, since the invention of the steam engine, or the internet, (and a myriad of other historical events) the world has ended "as we know it."

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  • an explanation of the downvote would be helpful to future readers.
    – avi
    Feb 22, 2012 at 5:56
  • If there was indeed a downvote (though no evidence exists of it now) it may have been because several of your statements seem written with a desire to undermine commonly held beliefs. From my interactions with you on J.SE, I feel this is not likely your intention, but it comes across that way. A simple "I believe also, but this is how I reconcile these issues" may have prevented the downvote. I haven't seen you around in a while; you still with us?
    – Seth J
    Jun 7, 2012 at 13:08
  • @SethJ Hi, the downvote is still there. If you have enough rep points you can click on the vote count and it will tell you how many up, and how many down. I'm not sure where you suggest I place the edit though.
    – avi
    Jun 8, 2012 at 9:51

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