There is more and more talk from ultra-Orthodox leaders in Israel to resist the recent decision to draft yeshiva students in the army, such as this one: "Haredi leader to yeshiva students: Don’t go to IDF draft offices or answer summons".

Doesn't Jewish law, under the Talmudic doctrine dina d'malchuta dina (the law of the land is the law), require that Jews accept to serve in the army like their fellow citizens? Historically, haven't Jews done so everywhere in the diaspora? How do they propose to get around this halachic requirement in Haredi Israel?

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    Historically, haven't Jews done so everywhere in the diaspora? Served in the army? Not if they could avoid it. I don't think dina d'malchusa requires self-sacrifice, especially not spiritual sacrifice.
    – shmosel
    Commented Jul 11 at 5:00
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    It's also questionable whether it applies at all in Israel: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/57065/6592
    – shmosel
    Commented Jul 11 at 5:12
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    Dina d’Malchuta Dina is not the correct principal. The correct principal is over Piku’ach Nefesh and when one is required to violate Shabbat. See Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim, Hilchot Shabbat 329:6, Mishnah Berurah (same), Aruch HaShulchan, Orach Chaim, Hilchot Shabbat 329:9. During war, citizens of a Jewish village (or larger) are obligated to take up arms preemptively, attack and kill the enemy even if it violates Shabbat. Commented Jul 11 at 6:05
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    Many other principles apply, e.g., lo taamod al dam re'echa, milchemet mitzvah, maybe even chilul Hashem
    – mbloch
    Commented Jul 11 at 8:06
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    A personal note from one who currently has four sons in the IDF including one who fought in Be'eri and other parts of Gaza on 7/10 and on. The problem of drafting the UO is merely a facade of the fundamental unacceptance of the Haredi institutions of the State of Israel and its people. During the 9 months of this frightening war, no Haredi leader stepped forward and offered any help to Israeli society. The only message of their rallies is "we don't belong here", "we don't belong to this people", and, as the Chief Sefardi rabbi said, "if you touch us we'll leave abroad".
    – Al Berko
    Commented Jul 17 at 10:00


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