What ultimately happened to the Urim Vetumim?
Will we need it when Moshiach arrives?
Was it hidden with the Ark?
Will we just make a new one?

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Only priests could work the oracle. [Deut. 33:8] After King David's reign, the Urim no longer gave answers and were replaced by the prophets. The Bible says that difficult decisions will have to wait...

...until a priest with Urim and Tummim should appear. [Ezra 2:63]

The Talmud is more explicit:

From the time when the early prophets died, [the Urim and Tummim stopped giving answers]... Rav Naḥman said: In the days of David sometimes an answer rose up and sometimes not. For example, Tzadok [a High Priest] asked and an answer rose up for him, whereas Abiathar [another High Priest] asked and an answer did not rise up for him [2 Samuel 15:24]. [Sotah 48b]

The Talmud adds that King Ahashverosh, in the story of Purim, wore the priestly vestments of the Urim from the plundered First Temple. [Megillah 12a]

  • So would that imply they are still in Iran or any sources that say or imply they were brought back to eretz yisroel?
    – Dude
    Commented Jun 2 at 3:09
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    See Were the אוּרִ֥ים Urim & תֻמִּֽים Thummim ever returned (after the Babylonian exile) to fulfill Ezra 2:63? hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/63578/…
    – Edward B
    Commented Jun 2 at 5:59

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