Why are Sh'kalim (Y'rushalmi) and Kinim and Midos (mishnayos) learned as part of the standard daf yomi cycle for Talmud Bavli?

And if the answer relies on some fact of publication, then (a) why were they published that way and (b) why did the founders of the daf-yomi system rely solely on that publication system instead of skipping those masechtos?


With regard to Sh'kalim, I believe the answer does indeed rely on publication practices. The practice of printing (and therefore studying) Sh'kalim with the rest of Talmud Bavli Seder Moed can be traced as far back as the times of the Geonim. [The idea is that Sh'kalim is short and therefore relatively inexpensive to print with the rest of Seder Moed to complete the entire seder, compared to something like completing Seder Zera'im with the Yerushalmi. (See here.)] Thus, the inclusion of Sh'kalim in the Daf Yomi cycle is simply a continuation of long-standing tradition of its study together with the rest of Talmud Bavli.

Tractates Midos and Kinim, though, are a separate issue. Why the completion of Seder Kodshim with mishnayos but not the other sedarim? The answer I've always heard given (as well as is speculated here) is that we attempt to finish Seder Kodshim based on the statement of the gemara in Menachos (110a): "When Talmidei Chachamim study the laws of the Temple service, it is considered as though the Beis HaMikdash was rebuilt in their days."

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  • +1, eminently plausible; thanks. Note that the page you link to that gives the "study the laws of the Temple service" reason gives it for Sh'kalim also. – msh210 Feb 12 '12 at 17:22
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    It may also be that Kinnim and Middos are included because in fact they are paginated continuously with Me'ilah and Tamid (Kinnim between them, Middos after Tamid). Arguably, it would be more confusing to say that we should study only until 22a (the end of Me'ilah) and then skip to 25b (beginning of Tamid). – Alex Feb 12 '12 at 19:41
  • @Alex, that answers part (b) of my question, but not (a). – msh210 Jun 11 '12 at 0:09
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    @msh210: very likely Bomberg's staff found it that way in the manuscripts they used. (The Munich manuscript of Shas, as well as other manuscripts - they can be viewed here - do contain these masechtos, although not in the same order.) – Alex Jun 11 '12 at 0:27
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    +1 - can you give a source to the Gaonic practice referenced? – Y     e     z Feb 25 '15 at 18:43

"What the Halacha is" is to found in "contemporary" anthologies such as Mishnah Brurara, etc.; HOWEVER "What is Halacha: is to be better understood from the Logic of Mesechet Kinnim (Avot 3-18 "R. Eliezer ben Hisma says...") wherein bird offering are the "easiest" practical example upon which to practice the logic of How much you can know without any doubt - even in the absence of simuhnim (identification detail) vrs Piske Nidah (onset of menstruation) where you discover how much you can still not know - even with a great abundance of simuhnim. This and That define the (limits of the) body of Halacha. SO - to answer this question: (CHAZAL appreciated that) "after you master the logic of Kinnim, then you will find every logical distinction - in every discussion - in every other part of SHAS to be much more transparent ("easier to understand")!

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  • I do not see how this answers the question – sabbahillel Feb 17 '18 at 23:55
  • @sabbahillel he seems to be saying that Kinnim is very important, so it was included to help teach people how to learn the rest of shas. – רבות מחשבות Feb 18 '18 at 0:58
  • Hi Chaim-Meyer, welcome to Mi Yodeya! Consider clarifying your answer so others can easily understand it. – רבות מחשבות Feb 18 '18 at 1:00

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