(Based on Tosfot Pesachim 116a and Aruch haShulchan 274:5 I assume that the man did not fall on Yom Tov and double fell on Erev Yom Tov, and that this is why we have lechem mishne on Yom Tov.)

When Yom Tov fell on Friday in the desert, did three times the normal amount of man fall on Thursday, to last through Shabbat? If so, does anyone discuss having three challot at meals on a Friday Yom Tov?

  • @SethJ I wrote Mishlesh to parallel Mishneh whereas I thought Mishulesh parallels Meshuneh. Are you sure about your spelling?
    – Double AA
    Commented Feb 6, 2012 at 0:44
  • M'shulash parallels m'shune; m'shulesh doesn't sound like a Hebrew word; and I don't know what the parallel of mishne would be (mishlash maybe? mishlesh?). Fwiw.
    – msh210
    Commented Feb 6, 2012 at 0:50
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    Rashi to Shemot 16:26 brings this idea as well: chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9877/showrashi/true#v26
    – Menachem
    Commented Feb 6, 2012 at 1:11
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    Tosfot in Beitza 2B (V'Haya BaYom) says that the Midrashim are divided whether the Manna fell on Yom Tov or not, but concludes that even if it did fall on Yom Tov, it did not fall on a Yom Tov that fell on a Friday - hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=8&daf=2b&format=pdf
    – Menachem
    Commented Feb 6, 2012 at 1:21
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    Mishneh is for sure the parallel for Meshulash (and vice versa). Mishneh means double (as in Mishneh Torah); Meshulash means triple. I cannot find an entry for Mishlesh or any mention of it as an alternate translation for 'triple' in any English-Hebrew dictionaries.
    – Seth J
    Commented Feb 6, 2012 at 1:37

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There is a Machlokes whether the Man fell on Yom Tov or not. The Gra in Hilchos Pesach discusses whether there should be 2 or 3 Matzos on the Ka'ara. According to the Rif since you do not need Lechem Mishna on Yom Tov, therefore even after you break the Matza at Yachatz you can still make Hamotzi on the remaining 1 1/2 Matzohs. (Rabbi Moshe Feinstein Zatzal also only used 2 Matzos at the Seder - per Artscroll Hagada based on Rabbi Moshe Feinstein Zatzal)

Even according to those that hold that you do need Lechem Mishna on Yom Tov the reason for Lechem Mishna on Shabbos is not because there were 2 breads for Shabbos, it is because double bread fell on Friday. To remember this miracle we have 2 breads on Shabbos. That 3 breads fell on a Thursday is not a change in the fact of the miracle.

My own reason not to use 3 is that Shabbos is more holy than Yom Tov and it is inappropriate to use 3 on Yom Tov when you only use 2 on Shabbos.

  • 1) I was only asking according to those who say it did fall. 2) We should have 3 breads to remember the even greater miracle. 3) I was imagining having 3 for both Friday yom tov and Shabbat just like we usually have 2 for Friday night and 2 for Shabbat day. 4) Source?
    – Double AA
    Commented Feb 7, 2012 at 18:05
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    Also, it isn't so clear that those who use 2 matzot hold that the man did fall. Maybe the half can count as a second loaf even if not complete because of lehem oni.
    – Double AA
    Commented Feb 7, 2012 at 18:07

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