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If the Mitzvah is to hear the sound of the Shofar - not to blow it - then why can’t a man fulfill his obligation by hearing from a lady’s blowing, if the דין שומע כעונה doesn’t apply here?

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  • It's a time bound positive command. Meritorious as it may be for them to endeavor to blow or hear it, women are not technically obligated in it. In order for shome'a k'oneh to work, the blower must have a greater or equal degree of obligation to the listener. Women do not have the same obligation as men, therefore a man cannot fulfill the miswah by hearing it from a woman. Sep 12, 2023 at 22:17
  • @Deuteronomy Does shomea keoneh make it like I screamed the shofar blast? What's the "keoneh" of which you speak?
    – Double AA
    Sep 12, 2023 at 22:23
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    Even better ask about a goy. Or a monkey.
    – Double AA
    Sep 12, 2023 at 22:23
  • A woman can't be motzi because כל שאינו מחוייב בדבר אינו מוציא אחרים ידי חובתן. But if your question is that it's purely about hearing a sound and there's no need for the blower to be motzi, then it's no different from a goy.
    – shmosel
    Sep 12, 2023 at 22:30
  • @DoubleAA the action of the שמיעה is considered to be like the ענייה. If I recall, there's a Reb Haim on this, but it's been a while. Sep 12, 2023 at 22:53

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The Levush 589:1 explains that although in theory any sound should suffice, even from a monkey (or a machine??), however Chazal qualified that it must be a sound that is made by someone who is chayiv in the mitzvah

The Har Tzvi (R’ Tzvi Pesach Frank) is said to of explained that someone who isn’t chayiv is just playing a flute, not blowing shofar for the mitzvah, and such a sound isn’t what the Torah required for the mitzvah.

Based on this, some say a woman shouldn’t even blow for a woman since the second woman will not be hearing a sound of the shofar of mitzvah.

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  • Chazal qualified... are you saying the requirement is rabbinic? some say a woman shouldn’t even blow for a woman... What about for herself?
    – shmosel
    Sep 12, 2023 at 23:45
  • No. I’m saying that chazal qualified that the definition of the mitzvah is only under certain circumstances. Blowing for herself is permitted by Shulchan Aruch 589
    – Chatzkel
    Sep 12, 2023 at 23:49
  • Why would blowing for herself be better than for another woman?
    – shmosel
    Sep 12, 2023 at 23:51
  • Good point. I would imagine because then she’s yotzei by blowing not hearing, so for her it’s ok. But that’s just my svara
    – Chatzkel
    Sep 12, 2023 at 23:58
  • See also Rav Moshe Shternbuch's piece on this in Moadim UZmanim
    – robev
    Sep 13, 2023 at 4:28

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