The Gemera mentions the idea of לפנים משורת הדין ( for example: Brachot 7a, 45b, Ketuvot 97a, etc) and the Gemera also mentions מידת חסידות (for example: Shabbat 120a, Bava Metzia 52b, Chullin 130b etc). I am wondering, what is the difference between the two (if any)? Thanks

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    An action that is lifnim mishurat hadin is a middat chasidut. That's how I've seen it used and always thought of it. It's a grammatical difference but both are serving the same idea
    – Rabbi Kaii
    Apr 4, 2023 at 21:47
  • @Rabbi Kaii a source would be nice :) Apr 4, 2023 at 21:57
  • @שלום I dont see Tosfoat talking about Midat Chassidut there? Apr 4, 2023 at 21:58
  • Isn't your BM 52b demonstrating it? The middat chassidut is taught in reference to doing something not required. Same with Chullin and Shabbat. What sort of source do you need other than that?
    – Rabbi Kaii
    Apr 4, 2023 at 22:42
  • @RabbiKaii fair point Apr 5, 2023 at 0:16

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It would seem that לפנים משורת הדין applies in a case where either the sages obligated us to do so - based on the Mitzvah of ״ועשית הישר והטוב״, or if there is a reason for this case to be an exception - e.g. the person is of high stature, like the Rambam writes (יסודי התורה ה:יא), or if it is a case where most people are obligated - only you have a “Heter” - e.g. either an elderly person or someone of high stature, who returns a lost item, even though he is exempt (see Tosafos Bava Metzia 24b)

  • So your saying that לפנים משורת הדין is something were obligated in (based off the pasuk), and מידת חסידות is something we are not obligated in yet the righteous do it, is that correct? Apr 5, 2023 at 12:45

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