I know this question is a little off the beaten track but still.
I saw a quote in a Sefer regarding cooking meat and milk together. He explains there is a difference between Mcdonald's and Burger King’s burgers. One of them is אסור from the Torah to cook and the other is a Rabbinic איסור.
Can anyone explain to me the difference between the two and how this would impact the diorssa and drabnan.
I understand one is fried and one is grilled, but I'm not sure how this would affect Halacha.
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2Are you able to clarify the exact difference between McDonald's and burger king in terms of how they prepare burgers? Not everyone here is familiar. The way it is cooked could definitely impact the severity of the prohibition.– robevJan 22 at 14:43
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@robev - you hit the nail on the head. That is my exact question, I have no clue how they make it... if anyone can shed light...– fulltimekollelguyJan 22 at 14:45
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1So far @יהושעק that makes the most sense from a practical side of things!– fulltimekollelguyJan 22 at 15:27
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1With regard to cooking milk and meat together, this does not happen at either both of the francises. I know someone working at the McDonald's and asked him this question. I'll let you know what he says.... To be continued.– ShmuelJan 22 at 16:57
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12) I've spoken with my friend, who works at McDonald's. There are separate grills for baking (grilling) the burgers. The meat is grilled on the grill, transfered to the bread, cheese is put on etc....– ShmuelJan 22 at 19:46
2 Answers
Assuming that one is grilled and one is fried, there is room to explain as follows:
In yoreh deah siman 87 in seif 1 it states that cooking meat with milk is a biblical prohibition. The first piece of Rebbi Akiva Eiger brings that grilling is forbidden from the torah as it is included in the prohibition of cooking meat and milk together. The pischei teshuva in seif katan 3 brings a dispute whether frying is included in the biblical prohibition, or it is a rabbinical prohibition. Accordingly, there is the potential halachic opinion that the cheeseburger that is grilled is a biblical prohibition, and the cheeseburger that is fried is a rabbinical prohibition.
If your presumption is correct, then tigun, frying, is still d'oraisa to cook (Pri Chadash). However, it might be d'rabbanan to eat. This would follow Minchat Yaakov and Aruch Hashulchan. Pri Megadim relies on Michat Yaakov in a hefsed merubeh. See SH Yora Deah 87:1-2 and commentaries
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Thanks, @rabbi_kaii (Thank you for your mention earlier today) The sefer was talking about the issue of cooking. Would love someone to answer who worked at these establishments and then became frum etc... Jan 22 at 15:29
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@fulltimekollelguy fair enough, Avrah mentioned the dispute that you are probably referring to. Good luck with this interesting question Jan 22 at 15:30
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1I thought they hold Tigun is derabanan completely. How could it be doraisa Assur to cook and muttar doraisa to eat?– robevJan 22 at 15:47
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@robev as Avrah brought, it is a machlokes. Go check the sources b'iyun. The mitzva of bishul is separate from the mitzva of hana'ah (see sefer Hachinuch 113 for eg), so what's the hava amina? Jan 22 at 16:01
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1What you're saying is correct but again not relevant to halacha. Anything Assur to cook is Assur to eat. דרך בישול אסרה תורה. Nekudah niflaah is about hanaah we're discussing achila– robevJan 22 at 17:29