For certain types of bread-like foods, one only washes and makes HaMotzi when eating a sufficiently fixed quantity. Suppose you make a Mezonos a small amount of cake, and after finishing it you realize that you are still hungry and want to eat a lot more.

Do you eat it under the coverage of your first Mezonos? Do you say an Al HaMichya or Birkat HaMazon?

How do you say an Al HaMichya on what you would consider a full meal? How do you bench on something you made a Mezonos on?

  • Welcome to MiYodeya Jonah and thanks for this first question. Great to have you learn with us!
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    Nov 26, 2022 at 23:46
  • If one accidentally said shehakol on bread he has fulfilled his obligation, and would later bentch. Even if you accidentally forgot to say an initial blessing entirely you still bentch at the end.
    – Double AA
    Nov 27, 2022 at 0:15
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    Welcome to the treacherous waters of pat habaah bekisnin! he.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Nov 27, 2022 at 10:23

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Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 48:4:

אִם מִתְּחִלָּה הָיָה בְּדַעְתּוֹ לֶאֱכוֹל רַק מְעַט, וּבֵרַךְ בּוֹרֵא מִינֵי מְזוֹנוֹת, וְאַחַר כָּךְ נִמְלַךְ לֶאֱכוֹל שִׁעוּר קְבִיעַת סְעוּדָּה, אִם בָּזֶה שֶׁהוּא רוֹצֶה לֶאֱכֹל עוֹד אֵין בּוֹ שִׁעוּר קְבִיעַת סְעוּדָּה אֶלָּא בְּצֵרוּף מַה שֶּׁאָכַל קֹדֶם, אוֹכֵל כָּךְ וּמְבָרֵךְ אַחַר כָּךְ בִּרְכַּת הַמָּזוֹן.

In normal cases HaMotzee and Birkas HaMazon go hand-in-hand, but as DoubleAA pointed out, there are exceptions – there's no actual rule that says "can't do birkas unless you said hamotzee." In this case, it would be a second Mezonos (if the second helping of cake itself is not hamotzee-worthy), then Birkas HaMazon after the sum total.

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    Sha'ar HaTziyun (168:21) is inclined towards the position in your answer, but he does bring the dissenting view of Machatzis HaShekel and others who say it this is only true if the individual had originally firmly decided to only eat the initial small portion of food (otherwise, these opinions maintain no additional blessing is required). At the other extreme, this article cites R' Ovadya Yosef (Yabia' Omer 11:13) as ruling the individual should recite hamotzi.
    – Fred
    Nov 27, 2022 at 9:40

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