The halacha is that Bishul Akum only applies to something which is Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim. The poskim (Aruch Hashulchan Y.D. 113, Chochmas Adam Klal 66) say that this is defined according to the custom of each individual country. What would be the halacha if something was cooked in a country where the food is NOT Oleh Al Shulchan Melachim and is then taken to a country where it IS Oleh Al Shulchan Milachim? Does the food become forbidden?

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    "The poskim say that this is defined according to the custom of each individual country." Sourcing this claim would improve the quality of your question. Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 18:56
  • Would the person who eats the food in his home country retroactively become chayav if he travels (what if it is already in his mouth or stomach)?
    – rosends
    Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 19:21
  • I would think that to be too far of a stretch.
    – Yitzy
    Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 21:15

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The Ben Ish Chai Chukas 2:12 brings from R’ Chaim Vital and others that in this case it would be prohibited:

אפונים שקורין בערבי "חומץ" (חומוס) שקלו אותם הגויים כתב רבנו הרב חיים ויטל ז"ל בשער טעמי המצוות, פרשת עקב, בשם רבנו האר"י ז"ל, דאסורים מדינא, לפי דאלו הקליות שלהם עולין על שולחן מלכים ושרים של אותם המקומות שעושין אותם הקליות, עיין שם. ומדבריו משמע דאוסר אותם גם במקום שאין עולין על שולחן מלכים או שרים, מפני שבמקום שעושין אותם עולין

ועיין "חיים שאל", חלק א, סימן עד, אות ו, שחקר בזה, וסוף דבר דעתו נטה לאסור גם במקום שאין עולין

In the reverse case, Rav Belsky and Rav Falk (Teshovus, Bishul Yisroel) are quoted as saying that it would also be prohibited. See Halachapedia and here

  • Translational question -- is that talking about what we think of as chumus?
    – rosends
    Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 20:31
  • Is he saying they brought the cooked chummus to a new place, or that chummus is prohibited everywhere because in that place where its commonly cooked, it's fancy?
    – Double AA
    Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 21:18
  • @double AA kaf hachaim 113:20 is more explicit that it refers to product that travelled. sefaria.org/…
    – Chatzkel
    Commented Jul 22, 2022 at 22:06
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    I think it’s in Machzeh Eliyohu chelek Beis. I can’t find it online, they only have chelek alef
    – Chatzkel
    Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 3:06
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    @rosends "חומוס" just means "chickpeas", the dish we know as hummus in English is technically referred to as hummus b'tahina in Hebrew Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 4:57

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