I frequently debate with Haredi-by-birth about philosophical and theological issues in Judaism, but it appears that they had never dealt with those questions. I understand that my expectations are too high, but I don't understand the common ground I can expect when talking to the Haredis.

What are the books on the Jewish philosophy/theology (like Rambam's "The Guide for the Perplexed", or even "Yesodey Hatorah"), which are obligatory in today's standard Haredi education? Books that are learned, argued upon, and the students are examined at the end?

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    None (15 characters)
    – Joel K
    Jun 22 at 11:33
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    I don't think an emphasis is put on philosophical studies as part of common education other than such seforim that would contain Mussar. Even then, they will not be studies for the sake of the knowledge, rather for character building.
    – Yoreinu
    Jun 22 at 12:00
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    Typically students are not tested on ספרי השקפה... that aside, "Haredi" is an umbrella term that covers many, many different varieties of right wing Orthodoxy (often with competing/different ideologies), so answering this question is difficult without knowing which specific type of Haredim you are engaging. Jun 22 at 12:44
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    I would also add that there isn't one governing body over the Charedi schools that can require a certain curriculum.
    – Yoreinu
    Jun 22 at 13:01
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    It would probably behoove you to study the history of the educational employment of philosophy within Jewish circles throughout the ages and then see who landed where
    – Dr. Shmuel
    Jun 22 at 20:46


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