An Israeli is visiting the Diaspora for a holiday beginning on Friday.

On Friday night a local Diasporan will says kiddush for the holiday and shabbos. Can the Israeli, for whom it's not a holiday, fulfill his obligation for kiddush of shabbos by listening in?

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  • There's a parallel question when first day Yom Tov is Shabbat, if the Israeli can fulfill havdala through Yaknehaz.
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Fantastic question. See Piskei Teshuvos ch496 section 19 part 3 where he quotes numerous authorities who discuss this, with three different options. All references can be found in fn 129-131.

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