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What is safek beguf safek beta'arovet? Specifically, what is the the safek beguf? Also, How does it relate to safek sefeka?

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    You should give the source for the quote that you are asking about Jun 29, 2021 at 14:31

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A concise explanation is brought in Halachapedia here:

If there is a safek safeka that is built of one safek about the status of the item in question and one safek since it was lost in a mixture, many rishonim consider this an invalid safek safeka. Others consider an acceptable safek safeka. One example is a safek teref piece of meat that was mixed up with other pieces of kosher meat (when bitul wasn't relevant).1 The halacha holds that it is an invalid safek safeka.2

If it is a safek safeka with one safek that is about the status of the item potentially a dvar sheyesh lo matirin and one safek of the tarovet it is an invalid safek safeka.3


1 Tosfot Beitzah 3b s.v. vacherot writes that Rabbenu Tam considers a safek safeka even if one safek is about the status of an item and one safek is about a tarovet. This is also the opinion of Tosfot Zevachim 71a and Riva in Shitah Mikubeset Zevachim 74a. However, the Ri cited by Tosfot disagrees that such a safek safeka is an invalid safek safeka. Rashba Beitzah 3a s.v. nitarva explains the opinion of the Ri; since the first safek is about the status of an item we determine that we are strict since it is a safek deoritta lchumra. Then we consider the second safek however at that time there's only one other safek. Rashba responsa 401 agrees with Rabbenu Tam.

2 Shulchan Aruch YD 110:9 holds it is an invalid safek safeka. Gra 110:10 writes that most poskim assume that it is an invalid safek safeka.

3 Shulchan Aruch 102:1. Shach 102:2 writes that everyone agrees for dvar sheyesh lo matirin one safek in the guf and one in the tarovet is forbidden.

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  • You seem to say that rabainu tam says it is valid and the Ri disagrees that it is invalid. ??
    – interested
    Jun 30, 2021 at 20:36
  • I am just quoting from what I saw on Halachapedia.
    – Dov
    Jun 30, 2021 at 21:21
  • However, the Ri cited by Tosfot disagrees that such a safek safeka is a ''''valid''''' safek safeka.
    – interested
    Jul 1, 2021 at 6:30

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