If a person who is observing a mitzvah will not be harmed, how is it possible that Hevel was murdered as a result of the Korban he offered?

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    Didn't Kohelet teach that concept first?
    – Double AA
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 19:10
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    – Alex
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 23:57

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In the sefer Asicha Rav Chaim kanievsky answered because Hevel wasn't commanded in bringing a korban therefore he wasn't protected. It's brought from Maharal (there in side notes) that Hevel wasn't protected because he was influenced by someone else to do the mitzva. (In this case kayin). A mitzva only protects when you enlight yourself to do the mitzva.

  • There are those that prove from Yehuda and Tamar (this week's parsha) that שומר מצות לא ידע דבר רע doesn't apply to a Katlanis, otherwise they would have done Yibum. According to this answer, there's no proof because Yehuda and his family weren't commanded in Yibum. Although, there is a Midrash that says Yehudah was commanded to have his family fulfill the mitzvah of Yibum, so then I guess Rav Chaim would say those commentaries would assume like this Midrash.
    – robev
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 20:54
  • @robev.. chavtzalas hasharon reid on this... from Chasam Sofer that by katan there's chashash he's a sris and won't get a mitzva. So by katlanis would be machmir...so have to wait untill gadol to see if he's sris...
    – Shlomy
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 21:16
  • Right...again assuming it doesn't matter if he's metzuveh or not. I'm not arguing on Rav Chaim I'm just pointing out many authorities don't assume this, unless we limit what they hold
    – robev
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 21:25
  • @robev The yavam can't be better than the mes since he is only ba mikocho, so this is not a proof for a general principle?
    – The GRAPKE
    Commented Dec 7, 2020 at 22:16
  • @robev We know why they were killed. If two die in a car accident she is not a katlanis.
    – interested
    Commented Dec 8, 2020 at 8:50

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