I heard there are Rishonim who dealt with the murder suicides that took place during the crusades, that there was disagreement whether those who committed these acts were correct or not. I was not provided the actual sources. Where can these discussions be found?

Related to this and this.

  • Related judaism.stackexchange.com/q/113457/759 – Double AA Jul 30 '20 at 21:20
  • See this answer, my comment thereon, and, generally, the rest of that page. – msh210 Jul 30 '20 at 23:27
  • @Double Yes, I've seen that. As noted in the comments there, why assume that happened during the Tosafists time? Or as pertains here, why assume it was during the crusades? – user6591 Jul 30 '20 at 23:48
  • @Kouty Why assume that Daas Zkeinim (quoting the Orchos Chaim) is discussing the times of the crusades? – user6591 Jul 30 '20 at 23:49
  • @msh210 That is one of the links in my question. – user6591 Jul 30 '20 at 23:49

There is here an Interesting article from Atar Daat that quotes texts from the Raavan and Tosfot Al Hatora about Crusades persecutions of Jews who died or commited suicide by Kiddush Hashem.

  • I'm upvoting this but cannot accept it, as the source seems to be the only benefit of this answer, not the answer itself. But thank you again. – user6591 Jul 31 '20 at 22:38

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