4

Recently someone told me about a chazal that states that during the days of Mashiach, Jews who had not already relocated to the Land of Israel would no longer be able to do so.

I am familiar with this concept when it comes to converts. Is anyone familiar with the source for this idea when it comes to making aliyah?

Improve this question
10
  • I don't even know where to begin with looking for an answer to this. I assume from the fact that the question is even asked in this manner that you're referring to those who are alive when Mashiach comes, not to those who have passed and will be revived. Therefore, this question is only valid according to the Ramban's and Rambam's (distinct from each other) views regarding Mashiach, as opposed to the Ramchal's that all of this occurs after the world explodes. (con't) – DonielF Mar 18 '20 at 15:13
  • 1
    When provided with an unusual quote, it's helpful to ask the person for the source. Often, the alleged “source”, when seen in context, doesn’t quite say what the person purported it to have said. You can politely say that you’re unfamiliar with the quote, and if they care to locate it for you, you would be happy to discuss it then. If they insist that it says does so, and how dare you suggest that it doesn’t, how can you insinuate that I’m lying etc., don’t lose your cool. Just calmly respond that sometimes people make mistakes and misquote something that they may have read many years prior. – IsraelReader Mar 18 '20 at 15:17
  • 1
    @DonielF We pray 3 times daily: וקבצנו יחד מארבע כנפות הארץ . We also say in the morning: והביאנו לשלום מארבע כנפות הארץ. – IsraelReader Mar 18 '20 at 16:06
  • 1
    @DonielF Which Rambam are you referring to? The Rambam that I'm familiar with (Yad, Hilchos Melachim 11:4) states that one of the hallmarks identifying the King Messiah is the fact that he gathered in the dispersed of Israel, which I presume to mean the Jews of the Diaspora. – IsraelReader Mar 18 '20 at 16:18
  • 1
    This is something I hear a lot, especially from people already there trying to convince others to make Aliya. I haven't heard it in the name of Chazal though. It's unsourced when mentioned. – robev Mar 18 '20 at 16:34
1

the prophesy about moshiach in isaiah chapter 11 ends with a very detailed description about the gathering of the exiles see there. prophesies about קיבוץ גליות the gathering of the exiles, are found in as early as פרשת ניצבים where it says ״וקבצך מכל העמים אשר הפיצך ה׳ אלקיך שמה״

Improve this answer
2
  • 1
    To play devil's advocate: maybe that's before moshiach comes? – robev Apr 21 '20 at 3:45
  • in the nevuah in yeshaya chapter 11 after going on a long description about moshiach it says "and it will be on that day..." and then goes on along description for the whole rest of the chapter and the entire chapter after it about kibbutz galuyot the gathering of the exiles see there – Negel Vasser Apr 27 '20 at 20:58

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .