I learned an entire Talmudic tractate by listening to audio lessons, without actually reading any words from the printed text. May I make a siyum?

It appears that "shomea k'oneh" wouldn't apply to audio recordings. Therefore, it's not clear whether or not listening to audio lessons would qualify as real Torah learning that one can make a siyum on.

  • possibly a duplicate of judaism.stackexchange.com/q/1353/170
    – msh210
    Jan 9, 2020 at 21:52
  • Have you seen how many audio recordings have been around for Daf Yomi? They've been there for years! Do you think all the participants at the latest Siyum last week who listened to audio made an invalid Siyum?
    – DanF
    Jan 10, 2020 at 0:28
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    Does this answer your question? Does listening to Torah content count as the mitzvah of Talmud Torah?
    – DonielF
    Jan 10, 2020 at 4:02
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    Re duplicated, the rules of a siyum are different from the rules of talmud Torah. For instance, it might be talmud Torah to listen to a shiur on the parasha but you cannot make a siyum on it.
    – mbloch
    Jan 10, 2020 at 4:13
  • @DanF - yours is an excellent question!
    – user17319
    Jan 10, 2020 at 10:36


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