At a siyum the person making the siyum typically says:

הִי רָצוֹן מִלְּפָנֶיךָ ה' אלקי, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁעֲזַרֽתַּנִי לְסַיֵים מַסֶּכֶת [שם המסכת] כֵּן תּֽעַזְרֵנִי לְהַתְחִיל מַסֶּכְתּוֹת וּסֽפָרִים אַחֵרִים וּלְסַיֵימָם May it be your will, Lord, my G-d, that just as you helped me to finish Masechet [so-and-so] so shall you help me to begin other masechtot and books and finish them (Translation mine)

In a case where the siyum is made on all the masechtot (i.e. the person has completed all 6 orders of Mishna), is this text different in some way?

The question occured to me in relation to the 13th Siyum HaShas of Daf Yomi, but even a person who has learned all of Talmud Bavli might wish to go forward and learn those masechtot which have no Talmud Bavli on them. But ostensibly having learned all of Mishna, nothing called a masechta remains to the person. There are no "other masechtot" to study, though one can study these masechtot again.

Perhaps one can read the Hebrew text as "to begin masechtot & other books", which fits the Hebrew, though in fairness Artscroll translates that bit as I did.

  • It could refer to the Masechtos Ketanos. Or the Masechtos in Mishnas Chassidim or Shaloh.
    – Meir
    Jan 2, 2020 at 19:38
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    An other masechet you already learned is also an other masechet
    – kouty
    Jan 2, 2020 at 20:06
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    @Ze'evFelsen there is the Yerushalmi as per DoubleAA's comment on judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/40909/…
    – rosends
    Jan 2, 2020 at 20:07
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    @kouty the question (as I see it) is a linguistic/logical one. If I want to use the word "other" I need at least 2 distinct groups. If the first group is "all" then there is nothing outside the group.
    – rosends
    Jan 2, 2020 at 20:09
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    There's no chiyuv to say an exact text. You can just modify it in a way that makes sense. I've seen לימודים אחרים.
    – Heshy
    Jan 2, 2020 at 23:13

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I thought of the Masechtot Ketanot as Meir mentioned. Or, this could refer to the many Masechtot that have no Gemarah.

On the simplest level, there is always something new to learn even from a mesechta that you already completed. Each day you learn Torah should be considered as if you first learned it that day.

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