It is frequently claimed that the reason for the current Haster Panim (lack of G-d's overt presence in the physical world) is that it is necessary for our free choice. In other words, if G-d's presence is obvious, the Torah keeping is also automatic.

However, the Torah describes many occasions when people sinned freely even after having personal experiences with G-d, proving exactly the opposite:

  • Adam sinned, Kain also killed a man while being born in Eden
  • the Israelites sinned with the Golden calf after perceiving G-d in Matan Torah
  • Moses sinned by hitting the rock
  • Yona ran away from G-d's commandment

So does G-d's overt presence invalidate one's free choice or not?

  • You mean the "intellectual perception" of the existence of g.d? – kouty Nov 6 '19 at 23:01
  • Does it have to be free or not free? How about something in between? "Inhibited"? – Maurice Mizrahi Nov 6 '19 at 23:13
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    “Frequently claimed” Any sources? – Alex Nov 6 '19 at 23:15
  • The events you cite on your answer is that G-d's presence does not compromise free will. – Jonathan Nov 6 '19 at 23:20
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    Wait - you are ignoring the fact that after a time you forget... – Danny Schoemann Nov 7 '19 at 10:53

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