I'm trying to understand the simple "game theory" of the plain text of the Tora. I don't deal with the idea of afterlife/World to Come as it does not appear in the scriptures (maybe remotely hinted).

So the conditions are:

  1. Humans are given the bad inclination (explicit).

  2. If humans naturally follow it, they are punished in this world (explicit in Tochachot in Devorim) and suffer from illnesses, hunger wars, etc.

  3. If they overcome all of it and serve Hashem all their lives, Hashem promises that **they will simply live normal human lives" - no illnesses, no hunger and no wars (Behukotay).

So it looks that the Pascal's wager of the plain text of the Torah about this world is exactly the opposite - in the best way possible all you get is a normal life.

Do our sources deal with how the Torah presents our chances in this world? And why?

  • They are many ideas floating around. Some think it is childish to expect a reward. People should do good because it is the right thing to do and avoid evil because it is wrong. If this is the case, then reward and punishment are promises and inflictions made to the masses and not meant to be taken at face value. This is definitely a superior way of looking at it. – Jonathan Oct 31 '19 at 15:31
  • They are some truths to it. If you honor your parents it could prolong your life, at least a while. – Jonathan Oct 31 '19 at 15:32
  • Who is right? Does G-d mete out reward and punishment in accordance with human deeds? Is this contentiously? The smartest man who ever lived, Albert Einstein certainly felt that reward and punishment were childish. But if it is real, why do the righteous suffer? Why the holocaust? Where was G-d in the holocaust? Why did so many nazis get away with their crimes, including Hitler who put a bullet into his brain. – Jonathan Oct 31 '19 at 15:54
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    plain text of the Tora Like sadducees? – Dr. Shmuel Oct 31 '19 at 17:19
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    How can you say you ask for sources but not “deal with the idea of the afterlife or the world to come”?! AFAIK, there are no sources that completely disregard Torah sheba’al peh, or that disagree with the idea of some sort of afterlife and/or world to come, which would mean that there are no sources that would deal with this question! – Lo ani Oct 31 '19 at 17:21

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