It is prohibited to learn Torah in the bathroom (source needed).

How far does this prohibition go? Are we not allowed to say pesukim, but allowed to think them? Is there a difference between tanach and Torah sheba’al Peh?

Can one sing (pesukim based songs) in the bathroom (seeing as he doesn’t mean to learn, just to entertain himself)?

Can someone figure out/ check zmanim and other stuff that will help him perform mitzvos (but aren’t learning/ mitzvos themselves)?

What do our sources say about this?

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    – Heshy
    Commented Sep 23, 2019 at 21:34
  • Seems that in some sense thinking about zmanim should be OK. How else could one time how long one can stay in the shower before he has to run to shacharit minyan?
    – DanF
    Commented Sep 23, 2019 at 22:22
  • Watch out, @DanF, there are those who argue it's assur to shower before Shacharit, that it's just as arrogant as eating Commented Sep 24, 2019 at 0:46
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    @DanF time how long you have before you get in the shower. From experience, after a week or two of the same routine, you’ll know exactly how much time you need/ have to shower (and do anything else).
    – Lo ani
    Commented Sep 24, 2019 at 6:16
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    @JoshK I didn't know that. However, it is also forbidden to daven when you have a smell of feces. (I recently visited a dairy farm in Israel. Farmer told me that they shower even on Yom Kippur after milking the cows, for this very reason I mentioned.)
    – DanF
    Commented Sep 24, 2019 at 16:46


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