Is practicing laining for a Parsha considered Talmud Torah?

Namely, does this "count" as Torah learning, would one get s'char for this etc OR could it be considered more like memorizing a song?

Sources welcome- thanks!

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    FWIW, I asked my LOR about whether I could practice laining on Tishah B'Av, and was told that I shouldn't since it was considered learning Torah on Tishah B'Av Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 1:52
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    – Alex
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 2:00
  • Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/27898/…
    – Alex
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 2:17
  • @Alex not necessarily that a person doesn't understand- rather is studying to memorize the tune (and maybe not considered "learning" since it's not really his intention/ he's just doing it to memorize the tune)
    – alicht
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 2:19
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    Why focus on studying? Ask more generally: does Leining in Shul count as Talmud Torah or is it considered more like singing a song?
    – Double AA
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 2:24

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The Shulchan Aruch HaRav Talmud Torah 2/12-13 writes that there is a difference between the 24 seforim of the written Torah, where saying the words is a mitzvah even if you don't understand the meaning of those words. While the oral Torah is a mitzvah only when you understand it.

אך אם מוציא בשפתיו אע"פ שאינו מבין אפי' פירוש המילות מפני שהוא עם הארץ הרי זה מקיים מצות ולמדתם. ולפיכך כל עם הארץ מברך ברכת התורה בשחר לפני הפסוקים וכן כשעולה לספר תורה:

במה דברים אמורים בתורה שבכתב, אבל בתורה שבעל פה אם אינו מבין הפירוש אינו נחשב לימוד כלל

Based on that, each word you read when practicing laining a parsha would be a mitzvah.

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    Thanks! But what's to say one doesn't understand it? Rather that one is just learning the accompanying tune to chant the Torah portion- not the words themselves
    – alicht
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 5:20
  • I downvoted because he contradicts the Talmud.
    – Dr. Shmuel
    Commented Aug 27, 2019 at 12:21
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    @Dr.Shmuel how?
    – larry909
    Commented Aug 29, 2019 at 10:52
  • But in the case you quote from shulchan aruch, the difference is in the intent, whereby in the example given the person's intent is for learning as opposed to the OP's question where his intent is not for learning.
    – larry909
    Commented Aug 29, 2019 at 10:53

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