I hope that my memory regarding Nusach Ashkenaz as practiced in Israel is correct, here.

For Nusach Ashkenaz, one of the main differences between Israel and the diaspora that I recall is including En K-elo-heinu / Pitum at the end of Shacharit. (I'm not referring to somewhat "smaller" changes such as to the ending of some words (See this question) and having "Morid Hatal" before the 2nd Amidah bracha.)

Why are these prayers that are near the end of Shacharit excluded outside Israel?

  • Wouldn't you consider rephrasing your question? Why do we say Ein kElokeinu on weekdays, when we don't omit any blessings that they are compensating? Oct 29, 2019 at 13:17

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Concerning the Ketoris, the halacha says that if one forgets on spice then he is chayav misa. There is a machlokes between The Rema and the Beis Yosef if that applies to speaking. The Rema says that due to tirdas hazman, people might forget or err on dating of the Ketoris. The Beis Yosef holds that this does not apply to speach. Sefardim pasken like the Beis Yosef. Ayn Kelokeinu was added to make of for lost brochas on Shabboz. We are required according to many opinions to recite 100 each day. Bdieved, the praises of Ein Kelokeinu count towards the brachos. There is also a reason to say it according to Kaballah. Sefardim are makpid for this.

When the Ashkenazim came to Eretz Yisroel, they adopted many customs of the Sefardim. Some examples: Lighting the Chanukah Candles earlier than they did in Europe. Although the Yerushalmi Kehillos have proofs that they dress similar to Chazal (I have heard this b'sheim Rav Moshe Brandadorfer), I understand that it was originally adopted from the Moroccan communities in Jerusalem.

By the way, there is a machlokes between the Beis Yosef and the Panim Meiros over what to do when a community moves to a new place with established minhagim. The Beis Yosef holds that we say Kama Kama batel and they to take on the minhagim of their new makom and the Panim Meiros holds that they may continue with their old minhagim.

  • In your answer there's the question, but you don't answer it: we say Ein Kelokeinu to compensate for the fewer blessings on the Shabbat and holidays, which is clearly not the case on weekdays. [The last two paragraphs don't have anything to do with the answer.] Oct 29, 2019 at 13:15
  • Didn't the question specifically ask about the ketoris?
    – Meuchedet
    Oct 29, 2019 at 18:56
  • Please read the title and the question again. Oct 29, 2019 at 19:11
  • The question and about ketoris.
    – Meuchedet
    Oct 30, 2019 at 2:54

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