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In the Gemara Shab. 140b Rav Papa is recorded saying that one who drinks wine while able to drink beer violates “ba’al tashchit”. Maharsh”a comments that Rav Papa’s disapproval of consuming wine instead of beer was due to personal bias since he had profited handsomely by beer manufacture (Rav Papa was a brewer).

1- Chazal are known to have been individuals that were extremely refined in their character traits including having pure intentions, so how could the Maharsha have written such an explanation?

2- Why did the Maharsha write this explanation? Was there a difficulty he was trying to resolve?

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    "Chazal ... were extremely refined in their character traits" - where do you take it from?
    – Al Berko
    Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 11:01
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    "Chazal ... were extremely refined in their character traits" - where do you take it from? Many Gemara's that describe their behavior.
    – Gavriel
    Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 11:21
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    See this post, s.v. “Since I mentioned”, by Prof. Marc Shapiro.
    – Oliver
    Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 17:35
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    A personal bias influencing someone's perspective is not at all the same as deliberately making a fraudulent legal ruling for personal gain. The most reasonable reading is that the Maharsha was discussing the former, not the latter. You see a similar pro-beer bias phenomenon in P'sachim 107a, "רב אשכחיה רב הונא דקדיש אשיכרא אמר ליה שרי אבא למיקני איסתירי משיכרא".
    – Fred
    Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 18:41

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Background:

The gemara you're referencing is part of a series on Shabbos 140b about Rav Chisda giving sound economic advice.

  • For example: since bundles of vegetables & sticks all cost the same, Rav Chisda suggests that one should buy a long bundle to get more bang for their buck.

  • In the middle of Rav Chisda's list of economic advice, Rav Papa chimes in with some seemingly economic advice of his own, saying "if someone could drink beer and drinks wine, he transgresses Bal Tashchis."

  • To which the gemara rejects this, stating that it is more important for one to not to harm their body (ie drink wine) than save a few dollars (by drinking beer).

As you pointed out, The Maharsha's commentary seems to suggest that Rav Papa's opinion was due to his own benefit or personal bias.

Responding to the Maharsha

The Rashash (1794-1872) is quoted in this article as explaining the Maharsha's comment on Rav Papa as follows:

(translation: mine)

ואני אומר על פירושו (של המהרש"א) ולאו מילתא היא דמאי יענה על ר' חסדא (מאי נוגע בדבר היה) דהאי "ולאו מילתא היא" שב גם כן על דבריו, ואולי דלזה כוון ר' פפא לעיל (קי"ח ב') באומרו לדידי חשדן ולא הוה בי, כי יש שהיה חושדין אותו כפירוש המהרש"א

And I say on (the Maharsha's) commentary that it's not really anything, because what is Rav Papa answering to Rav Chisda (ie what incentive did Rav Papa have in this) and this "לאו מילתא היא" can also apply on his words, and perhaps this was Rav Papa's intention earlier (Shabbos 118b) where he says 'they suspected me and there was nothing of it,' because there were those who were suspicious of him, as the Maharsha writes.

הרש"ש מסביר, שאולי דבריו של רב פפא על כך שחשדו בו לשוא, מוסבים על הסבר המהרש"א לדבריו בנוגע לשכר, שאמר זאת כדי שיקנו ממנו שכר

The Rashash explains that perhaps the talk about suspicion of Rav Papa was in vain, explaining the understanding of the Maharashah's with regards to things dealing with beer, that Rav Papa said this so people would buy beer from him.

My understanding of this is that the Maharsh"a is saying that Rav Papa WASN'T giving this advice for his own benefit; however, there were those who were sometimes a little suspicious of Rav Papa and his business dealings (see Rav Papa's Wikipedia entry for background and also this kipa.co.il article) and if the topic was about beer-- even if Rav Papa was giving genuine advice!-- these people would suspect him of having an ulterior motive.

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    This Rashash seems to be taking very dochak read of the Maharsha Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 20:06
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    @JoshuaPearl I don't disagree- I think it's written in light of him being bothered by the same question as the OP
    – alicht
    Commented Jul 10, 2019 at 20:32

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