Timeline for Radak comment on Lot
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| Oct 25, 2018 at 20:41 | comment | added | Heshy | What are you going to do with the name of the tevir on אלקיך of את-ה' אלקיך תירא ואתו תעבד? | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 20:24 | comment | added | Heshy | I agree 100% that trop is pshat, as I said in my last comment. There is a strong break between וכל אשר לו and ולוט, and I'm not disputing its significance. I said that the NAMES of the trop are remez at best. I stand by that statement. | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 19:43 | comment | added | Yaacov Deane | In a similar fashion, Avram's trust in HaShem was questioned when he made the peace agreement with King Amalek. That question resulted in the test of the Akeidah. And we also see that Yitzchok learned from Avraham's behavior and didn't leave Canaan his entire life, even during famine. | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 19:40 | comment | added | Yaacov Deane | @Heshy In terms of 'counting for something', Lot and his family didn't die in the holocaust of Sodom and Gemorrah. That is something. Your understanding of trope being Remez, and not Peshat is not understood. Proper reading of the Hebrew, with all the dikduk (including the Trope) is the Peshat meaning. The emphasis is not on Lot's shortcomings, but on the merit of Avraham. Avraham was demonstrating that he trusted HaShem to provide for him materially. According to some of the Meforshim, like Ramban, that was a question when Avram chose to leave Canaan for Mitzrayim during the famine. | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 19:20 | comment | added | Heshy | Ok, I agree, but he still did it. That has to count for something. He wasn't completely off the derech yet. (btw I think the grammatical function of the tevir, which is the biggest mafsik in that pasuk until the tipcha, is a much better support for your argument than its name. Grammar is pshat, trop names are remez at best, and I'm not even sure what you're trying to do with the "brokenness" here.) | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 18:48 | comment | added | Yaacov Deane | @Heshy The trope mark under וכל-אשר-לו is Tevir, which means 'to break' or 'to fracture'. This indicates that Lot was not 'with Avram, his wife and Avram's servants and possessions'. Although Lot left when Avram left, it was not with a whole heart. | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 18:36 | comment | added | Heshy | I don't think 13:10-12 is a continuation of the same idea at all. It's the opposite! 13:1 praises him - he's staying with Avraham even though Mitzrayim is materially better. Over the next few months he got more greedy and eventually chose Sodom. | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 17:32 | history | edited | Yaacov Deane | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 25, 2018 at 17:24 | history | answered | Yaacov Deane | CC BY-SA 4.0 |