Timeline for Is it considered a good thing that Lot's daughters slept with their father?
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 22:44 | comment | added | Turk Hill | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 20:52 | comment | added | Gavriel | I don't understand. The Torah did not provide a concession with marriage, it created a prohibition... | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:55 | comment | added | Turk Hill | The Rambam was referring to human concessions. For example, G-d made a concession and allowed animal sacrifices. However, in the rebuilding of the third temple, sacrifices would cease altogether. Indeed, the rabbis supplemented it with prayer. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:33 | comment | added | Gavriel | I'll admit that I don't follow your line of reasoning or what genetic defects have to do with the original discussion. Nevertheless I had in mind something more along the lines of what the Rambam says that before the giving of the Torah it was permissible for a man to decide to start living with a woman including intamicy whereas after the giving of the Torah this same behavior would be forbidden unless they got married first. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:18 | comment | added | Turk Hill | However, I read the Bible the way rationalist do, that the “Garden of Eden” story was a parable. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:17 | comment | added | Turk Hill | Now, what I said here is an oversimplified explanation of the argument, as I have not the time nor inclination to explain it further here. Genetics is yet a little understood field, with complexities not yet imagined. As a species, we're just into the edge of the water in a vast ocean of data and knowledge needed to understand the system. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:16 | comment | added | Turk Hill | It is when defects, drop-outs, or other damaged code is constantly reinforced that problems start to arise. And radiation from the sun (among other things) damages DNA. So over time, having a diversity of genetic code is a benefit, but also no guarantee against 'inferior' offspring. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:15 | comment | added | Turk Hill | That depends on how you understand the Bible. Some read it literally and would suggest that Adam and Eve resulted in incest (which normally leads to infirmity). They will often claim that defects or inferiorities in the genetic code of the first two people. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 17:52 | comment | added | Gavriel | Do you have a source to support your assertion? I can think of a few things that were permissible before the Torah was given that are now forbidden. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 17:17 | comment | added | Turk Hill | No! The laws of morality work one way from the beginning (of creation) to the end. What is immoral now could have never been morally right at any time, now, in the past or in the future. Only the ignorant would be guilty of changing the rules in the middle of a game. It is an action, virtuous or sinful, and not "mechanism" that decides morality or immorality. Thus it was wrong when Lot’s daughters raped him. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 1:56 | answer | added | Alex | timeline score: 2 | |
| Oct 28, 2018 at 17:15 | vote | accept | Gavriel | ||
| Oct 25, 2018 at 15:01 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/1055474350957178881 | ||
| Oct 25, 2018 at 14:40 | answer | added | Avrohom Yitzchok | timeline score: 10 | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 14:04 | history | edited | Joel K | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 25, 2018 at 12:01 | answer | added | kouty | timeline score: 4 | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 11:56 | answer | added | Joel K | timeline score: 16 | |
| Oct 25, 2018 at 11:26 | history | asked | Gavriel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |