Timeline for Is it a sin to deceive one's converting Beis Din?
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| Sep 13, 2018 at 14:17 | comment | added | Joel K | @DonielF 1. I'm not sure לא תענה applies here - the prospective convert is not testifying per se. 2. מדבר שקר תרחק can apply to witnesses as well - see e.g. Rambam Hil. Edut 17:7. 3. Semag and Yere'im hold מדבר שקר תרחק is a commandment to refrain from lying in more general contexts than just when testifying. | |
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| Sep 13, 2018 at 14:08 | comment | added | DonielF | @JoelK That’s not what מדבר שקר תרחק means - that refers to the courts doing things which, even if they result in the correct ruling, have a hint of falsehood. The correct mitzvah to cite would be לא תענה ברעך עד שקר, which completely undermines point #1. | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 11:01 | comment | added | mbloch | As always, and you know this by now, sources would greatly improve your answer. For now it looks like your personal opinion. For instance, point 3 seems contradicted by conversions which were then retroactively annuled | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:47 | comment | added | SAH | @AlBerko I emphatically disagree that "no sources are needed to understand how the Jewish court works." | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:43 | comment | added | Al Berko | @JoelK Too vague, not a Mitzvah. Are we talking Hassidus here? To my best knowledge, Rambam says nothing about lying to a BD | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:41 | comment | added | Joel K | Re: 1 מדבר שקר תרחק? | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:29 | comment | added | Al Berko | THe obligation "לא תטה משפט" is on the judges. No sources are needed to understand how the Jewish court works. Conversion is a BD not different from any others, and 1-3 hold for conversions also. | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:25 | comment | added | SAH | 2-3 Same comment. I see, also, no sources or other evidence here. | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:24 | comment | added | SAH | 1. I believe you are wrong; it is, iirc, a halacha to tell the truth to a beis din and maybe even to a single posek. They do say that there is no earthly punishment for perjury before a beis din; rather, G-d delivers the punishment. | |
| Sep 13, 2018 at 9:23 | history | answered | Al Berko | CC BY-SA 4.0 |