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Nov 2, 2018 at 15:08 comment added yO_ Of course the matter here is not about derech eretz of a polite salutation. It is about a deeper attention given to the woman, that she is likely to reply with particular kindness/smile/whatever, that could be sufficiently enjoying for the man to be considered a 'profit' like hearing her singing.
Nov 2, 2018 at 15:05 comment added yO_ Yes, but if someone enjoys enough from the woman's voice, even a simple talk can be forbidden. (Psak tells us that generally, a simple talk is not considered such a 'profit from the woman') Hence, it is not surprising that is some dangerous cases like sheelas shalorn, even without singing it can be forbidden.
Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56 comment added yosefkorn @yO do you listen to women talking? The reason why everyone does is because we pasken like the Shulchan Aruch based on the opinion of Rav Nachman that only when a woman sings it is erva not when she speaks
Oct 14, 2018 at 17:45 comment added yO_ See Qidushin 70a and in Rashi "qol baisha.." that even w/o singing, it can be assur (seemingly: in some 'dangerous' cases like saying hello etc). And mouthing the words seems to fall in all this.
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