Timeline for Is a shaliach tzibbur allowed to daven from the bimah instead of the amud?
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| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:48 | comment | added | DanF | @Dennis Don't think that I know Rav Gelman. Sounds logical, actually. In line with what I've stated in my previous comment. Kabbalat Shabbat from the bimah is a common minhag that stems from demonstrating that it is considered separate from the rest of the service, i.e., Ma'ariv. I may ask a separate question as to why this minhag began. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 18:50 | comment | added | Dennis | @DanF Rabbi Barry Gelman. Preflood, preshabbos mincha amud, kabbalah shabbos bimah, shabbos maariv amud, shabbos day pezuka dezimra, shachris, amud, shabbos musaf bimah, shabbos mincha amud, motzaei shabbos maariv amud. Similar for yomtov. As I said, depended on the service. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 14:56 | comment | added | DanF | @Dennis Who is the rabbi there? "davened from both the amud and the bimah" - In the shul where I grew up, during Yamim Noraim, the shsmash davened Shacharit from the amud, and the chazzan (i.e. professional, "musical" chazzan) davened Musaph from the bimah. Considering that the chazzan had a much more powerful voice than the shamash and that he could be heard easily from the amud, I would think that they should have put Shacharit at the bimah, instead! Perhaps, with the shul's echo, the women were better able to hear the chazzan from the bimah. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 14:41 | comment | added | Dennis | In my shul (UOSH in Houston), the short answer is yes. Before being flooded in Harvey, the shaliach tzibbur davened from both the amud and the bimah, depending on the service. Post flood, where we only have a bimah, the shaliach tzibbur davens all services from the bimah. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 0:58 | comment | added | DonielF | @RibbisRabbiAndMore Like I said, besides the Rambam and Tur, I didn't even touch Rishonim. If I have time at some point I might look at a few others to see if there's any support for the Mechaber in light of almost literally everyone else going against him. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 0:56 | comment | added | RibbisRabbiAndMore | @DonielF WOW! Well done! | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 0:51 | comment | added | DonielF | @RibbisRabbiAndMore And I have done so. A lot more complicated than I originally anticipated, and I mostly only dealt with Achronim. That post is here. | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 23:37 | comment | added | DonielF | @RibbisRabbiAndMore It's a lot more complicated than a straight halacha in the Rambam. I might just post a new thread on the topic. | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 22:30 | comment | added | RibbisRabbiAndMore | When the Rambam records the laws germane to the proper construction of a shul, he mentions that a shul should have a raised platform in the middle, which we call the bimah (Hilchos Tefillah 11:3). | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 22:27 | answer | added | RibbisRabbiAndMore | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 22:20 | comment | added | Noach MiFrankfurt | @RibbisRabbiAndMore, the Romaniote schul in NYC has it against the back wall. Many Sephardi schuls do have the teba (bimah) farther back than in Ashkenazi schuls | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 21:37 | comment | added | RibbisRabbiAndMore | <<the bimah is in the back of the shul.>> - That is wrong the bimah MUST be in the middle of the shul not in the back. | |
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| Jun 7, 2018 at 21:21 | answer | added | user9643 | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jun 7, 2018 at 21:08 | history | asked | DanF | CC BY-SA 4.0 |