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R Yair Hoffman writes herehere that the answer changes over time as refrigerator technology evolves and brings additional views of whose who disagreed with RSZA

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds hatthat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

R Yair Hoffman writes here that the answer changes over time as refrigerator technology evolves and brings additional views of whose who disagreed with RSZA

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds hat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

R Yair Hoffman writes here that the answer changes over time as refrigerator technology evolves and brings additional views of whose who disagreed with RSZA

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds that recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

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  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds thathat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

See also here from Star-K and here for additional concerns.

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds that recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds hat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

See also here from Star-K and here for additional concerns.

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  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds hatthat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

See also here from Star-K and here for additional concerns.

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds hat recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

See also here from Star-K and here for additional concerns.

  • Rav Hershel Schachter holds that recording the information on a computer [as is done in modern fridges] would under many circumstances at least be considered ksiva miderabanan. He also feels that there may be issues of davar shemiskaven–the person intends for it to happen since it is beneficial for him–even on a rabbinic violation.

  • Rabbi Eli Gersten of the OU stated that Rav Yisroel Belsky pushed to have timers on refrigerators. He told Rabbi Gersten that his grandfather, Rav Wilhelm, used to sell timers in his hardware store–they called it “the Rav Henkin switch.” Rabbi Gersten also stated that Rav Belsky used the language of “chashashos,” concerns, of a Torah prohibition. Rabbi Gersten further stated that when one student from Yeshiva Torah Vodaath (who accompanied Rav Belsky at the OU on Thursdays when he came to rule on questions) expressed grave concerns after purchasing a new refrigerator, he said, “Look, until a timer comes out, just open it with a shinui. When the timer comes out, purchase it.”

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