Timeline for Fasting, Yom Kippur
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| Feb 18, 2018 at 9:20 | comment | added | b a | @Levi That's a good question. We have the phrase לענות נפש in the context of vows, and its definition is different than what we have in this context (see Nedarim 11:1). I don't have an answer for this, but it would definitely make a good question to ask why the law is interpreted differently when they use the same word | |
| Feb 18, 2018 at 7:57 | comment | added | Levi | I like the answer, but how does one know that the prohibitions which are expressed are indeed all prohibitions? Could there be more if one like the Gemara could link them to the word for affliction? | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 18:47 | history | edited | b a | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 11, 2018 at 17:49 | comment | added | mevaqesh | I'm not saying it's a bad answer. It's a fine answer according to one opinion, and clarifying that would improve the post | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 17:05 | comment | added | b a | @mevaqesh Divrei kabbala from the verse in Daniel. Being from the rabbis doesn't necessarily preclude also being part of authorial intent, which the questioner asked about | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 14:15 | comment | added | b a | @Heshy Then there is an opinion that it's from the Torah, and obviously the other opinion would have to agree (based on the Gemara I quote) that there's at least an asmachta or divrei kabbala, or something similar | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 14:11 | comment | added | Heshy | This was harder to find than I expected. The Rambam doesn't mention kareis except for eating and drinking, but doesn't say whether the others are deoraisa or derabbanan. I finally found it in the Tiferes Yisrael Yoma 10:1 (I didn't chase down the Rosh and Ran he quotes): והחיה. כל שלשים יום אחר לידה, וה"ה כל חולה אפילו שאינו מסוכן מותר, והקילו באלו משום דרק אכילה ושתייה הן מדאורייתא, ובהנך לא גזרו [הרא"ש], ולר"ן כולן אסורים מדאורייתא, רק דהנך דאינן מפורשים בתורה, מסרן הכתוב לחכמים להקל בהן בעת הצורך, [כדאשכחן דכוותיה במלאכת חוה"מ כחגיגה די"ח א'] רק כרת לכ"ע ליכא רק באכילה ושתייה: | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 12:27 | comment | added | b a | @Heshy The Gemara tries to prove that all of them are included in the language of עינוי. What do you recall that makes it seem otherwise? | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 12:24 | comment | added | Heshy | Are they all deoraisa? As I recall it's not obvious that they are. | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 11:49 | history | answered | b a | CC BY-SA 3.0 |