Timeline for Why did g_d harden Pharaoh's heart?
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| Dec 1, 2017 at 16:46 | comment | added | sabbahillel | @user39122 Not necessarily. Hypothetical questions do not have valid answers. The point is that we do not know what would have happened. Had Pharaoh been forced early they would not have been free. | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 16:22 | comment | added | user16133 | what if g_d hadn't hardened his heart. then these plagues and mass murder won't be needed. many lives could have been saved. Pharaoh would give up at 4th or 5th plague and release the Israelites | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 14:44 | comment | added | sabbahillel | @user39122 That was an analogy. Substitute financial pressure, threats or anything else. In any case consider Chananiah Mishael and Azaryah as other examples who were willing to be thrown into the fire, but said they might not have been able to withstand torture. Daniel and the Lion's den, Avraham in the fire of Ur Kasdim. Pharaoh did muster the will to resist until the tenth plague. | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 14:38 | comment | added | user16133 | that seems impossible. Anyone who has an urge to live would definitely do anything at that time that the person holding the gun wants him to do | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 13:56 | comment | added | sabbahillel | @user39122 Yes. That is, a person can only resist pressure based on the strength of his will and the ability to overcome the pain. Imagine someone with a gun to his head resisting the demands of the person holding the gun. | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 13:25 | comment | added | user16133 | does strengthening the will mean increasing the power to resist in this context? | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 12:47 | comment | added | sabbahillel | @user39122 See my explanation above. If Hashem had not allowed Pharaoh free will during the plagues they would never have gotten over being slaves. At that it took the entire next generation before they could enter the land. | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 11:34 | comment | added | sabbahillel | As I explained, Hashem wanted to have Pharaoh make a free willed decision to let them go. If He had created a miracle to move them from Egypt into the desert, they would not have been freed at all. Pharaoh had to be influenced to send them out himself. A man with a gun to his head cannot be punished for eating non-kosher food. | |
| Dec 1, 2017 at 9:47 | comment | added | user16133 | yes and this is what i asked when g_d wanted to get Israelites free then why did he have to harden his heart | |
| Nov 30, 2017 at 16:32 | comment | added | sabbahillel | No it has everything to do with it. I said that his will was strengthened so that he could decide not to release them and not succumb to the pressure of the plagues like someone with a gun to his head. The analogy has nothing to do with kindness as the modern usage of heart might have it. | |
| Nov 30, 2017 at 15:07 | comment | added | user16133 | so hardening his heart has nothing to do with pharaoh not releasing them? | |
| Nov 30, 2017 at 14:45 | comment | added | sabbahillel | @user39122 kind is modern usage. Torah usage is strength of will and desires. See lo sasuru acharei levavchem. | |
| Nov 30, 2017 at 14:05 | comment | added | user16133 | hey doesnt hardening his heart mean making him stop feeling kind? so how did it help Pharaoh withstand the plague? 😅 | |
| Nov 29, 2017 at 20:09 | history | answered | sabbahillel | CC BY-SA 3.0 |