Timeline for Would suicide be considered acceptable if it was done to prevent yourself being sacrificed to an idol deity?
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| Jun 21, 2021 at 5:49 | comment | added | chortkov2 | There are two distinctly different questions here: 1) Does yeharog ve'al yaavor require suicide or only passively submitting oneself to be killed; 2) Does passively being sacrificed to a foreign deity constitute transgressing idolatry, which is yeharog ve'al yaavor. | |
| Jun 21, 2021 at 2:41 | comment | added | Tamir Evan | Regarding the 3rd bullet point ("The problem is ..."): I thought we purposely create Mevushal wine in order to be able to avoid having to worry about using (e.g. for Kiddush) wine handled by non-Jews, that might have been used for idolatrous services (Yayin Nesekh). Who says "we purposely create Mevushal wine in order to prevent such sacrifices from taking place"? | |
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| Jan 21, 2021 at 18:17 | answer | added | Blorkit1 | timeline score: -1 | |
| Dec 25, 2019 at 9:12 | comment | added | Harel13 | Maybe related is the story of the Roman official who asked Rabban Gamliel if he'll get Olam Habah if he'll overturn the warrant against him. When Rabban Gamliel says yes, the official commits suicide and a Bat Kol calls out that he's summoned to Olam Habah. (Taanit 29a) | |
| Oct 9, 2017 at 4:40 | comment | added | ezra | Just because someone says, "I dedicate you to my god" doesn't make it so. | |
| Oct 8, 2017 at 14:47 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/917038624176328704 | ||
| Oct 8, 2017 at 11:35 | comment | added | kouty | There is no sin to be sacrificed to a.z. by someone else | |
| Oct 8, 2017 at 8:43 | comment | added | kouty | Good question!. | |
| Oct 8, 2017 at 2:46 | history | edited | Loewian | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 8, 2017 at 2:37 | comment | added | DanF | Good question. I suggest you start by seeing how King Saul requested his death. I understand that it's questionable if this was considered suicide in an exact sense. He leaned on his sword so he started his own death, but he requested someone else to complete the job. | |
| Oct 7, 2017 at 23:55 | comment | added | mevaqesh | Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/a/71322/8775 | |
| Oct 6, 2017 at 12:30 | comment | added | user15672 | @user15676 Masada was a different situation because the Jews weren't going to be forced to convert. Judaism was a recognized religion of the Roman Empire The main thing there is Roman slaves were allowed to freely worship in their faith system. This meant slavery was the more acceptable option than suicide since they were allowed to continue serving Hashem while in slavery. | |
| Oct 6, 2017 at 2:32 | comment | added | Gary | This question has definite historical relevance. The Moabite Stone/Mesha Stele explicitly says that when Moab took back the towns that Omri and Ahab had taken from them, they devoted the Israelites living there and other spoils of war to Chemosh. | |
| Oct 6, 2017 at 0:35 | comment | added | user15676 | Maybe not. How about Masada? It's more Christianity thought, and be considered as a sacrifice. | |
| Oct 5, 2017 at 20:02 | history | asked | user15672 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |