Timeline for Is there a prohibition on eating meat and poultry together?
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| Aug 6, 2017 at 19:14 | comment | added | ezra | @DoubleAA - Yes that is what I mean. | |
| Aug 6, 2017 at 19:12 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @ezra you mean no chicken and cow on the same plate at the same time? | |
| Aug 6, 2017 at 19:10 | comment | added | ezra | @DoubleAA - I do not have two different kinds of meat at the same time, ie, on the same plate. | |
| Aug 4, 2017 at 14:40 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @ezra Can you clarify what it is that you observe? | |
| Aug 4, 2017 at 7:27 | comment | added | SAH | @DanF "...by eating OR drinking": My site has: "In between eating fish and meat, one must eat a piece of bread or other solid food to clean his mouth. Sepharadim must ALSO drink something" | |
| Aug 4, 2017 at 7:26 | comment | added | SAH | @DanF But we usually make a new bracha (shehakol/hagafen) on any l'chaim during the meal! At least that's what I was taught. Weren't you? Or does the schnapps not count as a drink worthy of its own bracha since it is merely for cleaning the mouth? (But then, arguably, it's even less part of the meal!) | |
| Aug 4, 2017 at 7:17 | comment | added | SAH | Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/16096/… | |
| Aug 4, 2017 at 2:58 | comment | added | mevaqesh | @SAH not every practice that is widespread is authoritative. The magen avraham makes no mention of such an issue although it was likely common, and Rav Herschel Shachter did not consider it an operative factor, either. Relevant in this regard is the category termed minhag shtut. | |
| Aug 3, 2017 at 17:29 | comment | added | DanF | @SAH I think O.C. mentions that one should "clean his mouth", and this can be done in several ways, by eating OR drinking. I have heard from a few doctors that alcohol tends to be the best "taste cleanser" which may explain why drinking schnapps is popular. It does eliminate the fishy taste, although chewing parsley or cumin (Indians do this, BTW) works just as well. Caterers sometimes serve sherbet for the same reason. No, I do not make a bracha on the schnapps. I believe that the hamotzi at the beginning of the meal would make that unnecessary. | |
| Aug 3, 2017 at 17:07 | comment | added | SAH | @DanF I have never seen anyone be makpid both to eat AND to drink between fish and meat, although maybe I'm not observing people carefully enough. (Would it count if it's from the same plate the fish?) Nice to hear you have a shnapps. Purely out of curiosity, do you make a bracha on it? | |
| Aug 3, 2017 at 17:04 | comment | added | SAH | @mevaqesh What about the fact that it is by now practically minhag yisroel (and certainly the minhag in very many communities) not to eat meat and fish togeteher? | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 20:39 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | related judaism.stackexchange.com/q/7311/759 | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 20:29 | answer | added | user8726 | timeline score: 6 | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 16:23 | comment | added | DanF | "why does nobody seem to do this last part?" - WHICH "last part"? The drinking whiskey? Says whom? Or do you mean specifically whiskey vs. vodka or beer? Single malts tend to be expensive! I almost always have a schnapps after the fish. | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 14:50 | comment | added | mevaqesh | Cont. Is rabbenu bachya saying what he heard in the name of medieval Arab doctors. Hardly folks we want to be following for anything. It may or may not be mentioned in the sha but even about meat and fish, which is mentioned, the magen avraham emphasises that we don't follow Talmudic medicine, and the implication as noted by r. Herschel shachter is that it is fine to consume. | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 14:42 | comment | added | mevaqesh | Depending on what you mean by following the shulhan arukh, it sure does. If something is a formal enactment based on a superstition or outmoded science, then it may or may not be binding. If something is just medical advice from folks centuries ago who would be disappointed if they knew that in the age of modern medicine you were following their folk superstitions, it is not halakha even if it is mentioned by a halakhist. Even the issue of meat and fish is omitted by rambam in accordance with the principle that we don't follow Talmudic medicine. The earliest source for fish and milk afaik | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 14:28 | comment | added | Bach | I agree with mevaqesh. The list is full of superstitious taboos that have no basis in Halacha or the Talmud! FWI kitzur shulchan is not the same as Shulchan Aruch, while the latter has been accepted through Klal yisroel, the former has not, and neither is it considered binding on Jews (if my Ruv would write a book chock full of these kind of superstitions would it become part of halacha?? Absolutely not!). | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 11:01 | comment | added | SAH | @mevaqesh I would personally agree, but that doesn't mean we don't follow the shulchan aruch | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 5:21 | comment | added | mevaqesh | Probably because random medical superstitions picked up over the centuries are a wonderful thing jettison, and a horrible thing to hold onto. | |
| Aug 2, 2017 at 3:49 | comment | added | ezra | FWIW I observe it. I've never drunk anything between, just haven't had the two on the same plate together. | |
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