Timeline for Talis Gadol for Unmarried Individuals
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| Jun 6, 2011 at 17:30 | vote | accept | yydl | ||
| May 25, 2011 at 18:44 | comment | added | Isaac Moses♦ | @jake That's fine. I just wanted to make clear that the difficulty is not at the level of "why is this novel drasha pushing off a Biblical commandment?" | |
| May 25, 2011 at 18:42 | comment | added | jake | @IsaacMoses, You are correct that wearing a talit gadol is not a mitzva, and perhaps @WAF's phrasing of the question is a little misleading. Talit gadol is a minhag that is based on the importance of both tefilla and the mitzva of wearing tzitzit. Since both of these are general obligations that kick in at bar mitzva age, there is a difficulty in understanding why this minhag does not apply until marriage. | |
| May 25, 2011 at 18:26 | comment | added | Isaac Moses♦ | Wearing a talit gadol is not a Mitzva. Putting strings on if you happen to wear one is. I don't see where the presumption of difficulty comes from. | |
| May 23, 2011 at 13:27 | comment | added | Chanoch | In minhag Ashkenaz, paseukim are frequently darshened in ways not found in Chazal in order to justify minhagim. Aside from tzitzit, another example is the minhag of not praying ma'ariv of shavuot before tzait hakochavim. This comes from the paseuk of sefira being "seven complete weeks". However the first person to justify this minhag was R' Avraham Horowitz, the father of the Shelah HaKadosh, which means this justification significantly postdates chazal. | |
| May 23, 2011 at 3:11 | comment | added | WAF | @jake - Coming right up. | |
| May 22, 2011 at 23:42 | comment | added | jake | Re "citing the pasuk is intended to be a postfix hint and not an ab initio source." Great way of describing derech asmachta. Also, the article in P'ri T'marim, in my opinion, does a better job of justifying the minhag. I would recommend summarizing its conclusion as part of your answer. | |
| May 22, 2011 at 23:33 | history | edited | WAF | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Added Satmar source.
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| May 22, 2011 at 23:18 | comment | added | WAF | Good point. It needs explanation. Stay tuned for more. | |
| May 22, 2011 at 23:17 | history | edited | WAF | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Added citation; added 7 characters in body
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| May 22, 2011 at 23:05 | comment | added | jake | "Extracting instructive meaning from the juxtaposition of two verses" is only acceptable as a method of rabbinic midrash halacha. Never before have I heard of such a method being used to provide for "giving rise to a minhag", especially one that counters the general idea of one being obligated in mitzvos from bar mitzva age. | |
| May 22, 2011 at 22:55 | history | edited | WAF | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Added paragraph.
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| May 22, 2011 at 22:50 | history | answered | WAF | CC BY-SA 3.0 |