Timeline for Is it really kosher to "apply" to become a gentile king's wife?
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| Mar 28 at 9:35 | comment | added | MichoelR | Just in terms of simple logic, I think the words of the gemara sefaria.org/… make a lot of sense: The king ruined a thousand women one after another, on a daily basis, all condemned to permanent exile to his harem. No one in her right mind would volunteer for a lottery like that. Fathers hid their daughters from him. | |
| Mar 28 at 9:32 | comment | added | MichoelR | 'Someone told me that Esther and her father were "made" to do this, but the Megillah is not clear.' It is certainly not clear the other way. Your question didn't provide any reason to think that Esther "applied" voluntarily; do you have one? If not, the answer to your question is simple: Torah sources take the opposite for granted. | |
| Mar 14, 2015 at 0:24 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackJudaism/status/576539446218264576 | ||
| Feb 23, 2015 at 21:26 | vote | accept | SAH | ||
| Feb 22, 2015 at 19:08 | comment | added | Fred | Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/40687 | |
| Feb 20, 2015 at 16:01 | history | edited | Isaac Moses♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
http://meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/1127/should-we-censor-the-term-goy-when-used-in-english-to-mean-gentile
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| Feb 20, 2015 at 15:55 | answer | added | DanF | timeline score: 7 | |
| Feb 20, 2015 at 15:33 | comment | added | DanF | @msh210 - I assume that you are referring to the 2nd answer there? It says "Being taken is something that you CAN resist" - Huh? If you're taken forcibly, doesn't that imply that resistance doesn't work, i.e. - their force overpowers your resistance? | |
| Feb 20, 2015 at 6:36 | comment | added | msh210♦ | @DanF judaism.stackexchange.com/a/11126 | |
| Feb 20, 2015 at 2:38 | comment | added | Daniel | Isn't this a case of pikuach nefesh? | |
| Feb 19, 2015 at 23:03 | answer | added | Yishai | timeline score: 9 | |
| Feb 19, 2015 at 22:55 | history | edited | SAH | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added last paragraph in view of DanF's comment
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| Feb 19, 2015 at 22:49 | comment | added | Yishai | @DanF, Ester 2:15 is pretty clear that she wasn't looking to be attractive. | |
| Feb 19, 2015 at 22:44 | comment | added | DanF | I don't have access to the source, now, but the word used in Hebrew is "Vatilakach Esther" (I think it's in Chapter 2). The word means that she was "taken" - i.e., forcibly. How this was done, is unclear. If she applied, she may have been forced to do so as were all the girls in Shushan. As to whether she tried NOT to be attractive, etc. so that she wouldn't be chosen is a separate issue that the Megillah doesn't mention directly. | |
| Feb 19, 2015 at 22:38 | history | asked | SAH | CC BY-SA 3.0 |