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Dec 12, 2014 at 17:39 comment added Seth J Interesting question, but I think you're searching for more than you're going to find here.
Dec 12, 2014 at 15:55 history edited msh210
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Dec 11, 2014 at 17:29 answer added Gershon Gold timeline score: 3
Dec 11, 2014 at 17:24 comment added user6641 @GershonGold it says he came out of the womb chronologically before his brother, but no where does it say he was "born" first. The whole point of the earlier pasuk is that Zerach was "born" first by dint of putting his hand out. That is literally what the pasuk says. If you are saying that's not the case according the the halachic definition of birth, and you can cite a source as such that would be a fine answer, but it would still need to explain why the earlier pasuk says otherwise and why the string was tied (what significance did putting out the hand have?)
Dec 11, 2014 at 17:18 comment added user6641 @GershonGold don't take this the wrong way, but your comment is confusing. Where does it say that Peretz was born first?! It seems to me to be saying that putting the hand out first is the definition of being born first (otherwise what was the point of putting on the string?)
Dec 11, 2014 at 17:09 comment added Gershon Gold Your question is confusing. The Torah clearly says a few verses later that Peretz was born first. This Pasuk is only saying that the midwife was trying to identify who came out first, and placed a string on the hand of Zerach who was later born second.
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