Timeline for minhag means law? when in shulchan aruch
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| Nov 24, 2014 at 23:45 | comment | added | hazoriz | @DoubleAA I do not understand please elaborate (you tought me something before, maybe it will help hare to) | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 22:33 | comment | added | user6591 | @Double when R'#3 quotes R'#1 & R'#2 and decides to rule with R'#2, he can say the halacha is like R'#2 or he can say one must be noheg like R'#2. Any 'minhag' is also only based on an opinion like the Magen Avraham points out, otherwise it is a minhag shel shtus. As such for any Rabbi to choose to word 'rule' or 'the law is' or 'hachi nahog' is symantecs bi'alma. Its only in hind sight when there is a practice already accepted that it matters whether we call it ikur din or minhag. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 22:07 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @hazoriz That is obviously preposterous fundamentally, even if it is correct that it is unlikely Ashkenaz will ever completely abandon its Minhagim. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 22:04 | comment | added | hazoriz | @DoubleAA from the primi gadim above is seems that "vihachi nahog" dose not permit changes | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 21:30 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @hazoriz user6591 I think custom and law were being clearly contrasted in the question. Hence, law are things which are not determined by custom. Law may obligate me to not violate a custom, but when a custom changes the practical application does too. But no custom can allow eating pig, for instance. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 19:57 | comment | added | user6591 | @Double the use of the word 'law' in the question may be throwing you off. Perhaps he should have said halachicaly binding, but again, his intentions were clear. This is all besides the fact that halachicly binding and law and accepted practice and many other words we can use are not so clearly defined in the lexicon of halacha as we all know. This is probably the single most confusing idea in Judaism, causing separation between people who would otherwise call themselves brothers in Judaism who now call themselves Chasidish, Modern Orthodox or Yeshivish, or anything else. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 19:40 | comment | added | hazoriz | @DoubleAA what is the difference between halachically binding and law? (the law is what makes it halachically binding) (there is a separate idea of "ikar hadin" (the essence of the law)) | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 19:04 | comment | added | user6591 | @Double i think the intentions of the question to clarify when the word minhag is used to codify as halachicaly binding vs relating a practice was clear and addressed by this answer. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 18:47 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | I don't see how this answers the question. Customs can be halachically binding but not law. | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 18:46 | vote | accept | hazoriz | ||
| Nov 24, 2014 at 18:44 | history | answered | user6591 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |