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Timeline for Fish Tank Menorahs

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Dec 14, 2011 at 14:46 comment added Isaac Moses Good find, @simchashatorah. All comments and AviD's answer merged from this duplicate.
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Dec 14, 2011 at 14:40 comment added avi We know exactly where they lit. Outside their doorway. We also know what their houses looked like, and where their doors were. While the area was protected by walls, it was still an open courtyard with wind on windy nights. You are likely using a week candle, and not an oil lamp.
Dec 14, 2011 at 14:30 comment added Mark @avi, people lit outside but we don't know where. maybe there were walls around the area or they had some other setup. In general, at least in all the places I've lived, if you light a candle outside at night, it will usually go out within a few minutes.
Dec 14, 2011 at 13:21 comment added avi Then I will assume you are asking about using the box on a windy night and not a normal one? When the rules were set down, people lit outside without glass boxes.
Dec 14, 2011 at 13:17 comment added Mark @avi, the principle of "hadlaka oseh mitzvah" means that all the requirements (amount of oil, location, etc.) need to be there at the time of the lighting, and that it's not enough to light and afterwards meet the requirements. For example, if the menora has to burn for 30 min, you can't put in oil or 15 min, light, and then add more, since at the time of lighting it didn't meet the requirements. The fact that an unforeseeable event occurs after you light and blows them out doesn't matter as long as it was unforeseeable, and as far as you could tell the conditions were met when you lit.
Dec 14, 2011 at 12:22 answer added AviD timeline score: 1
Dec 14, 2011 at 11:30 comment added avi Can you explain how this is any different from a candle going out before the next candle is lit? Or kids running by the menorah putting out a candle while lighting? I'm not understanding the timing issue here.
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