Timeline for Why are challenges to respected rabbis not treated seriously?
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| Aug 10, 2016 at 20:02 | comment | added | kouty | You can be very critic and agressive. But you need to know that you are arguing with your reading of the Gadol, not with the Gadol itself. | |
| Aug 10, 2016 at 3:46 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Aug 10, 2016 at 3:25 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @mevaqesh Options 1,3 and 4 are all sorta subjective. If a sufficiently large group of users think so, then it can be. | |
| Aug 10, 2016 at 2:36 | comment | added | mevaqesh | @DoubleAA is this a rant? or about jews not judaism? or too broad? or primarily opinion based? | |
| Oct 5, 2014 at 23:46 | comment | added | MTL | xkcd.com/675 | |
| Aug 19, 2014 at 20:07 | vote | accept | rosenjcb | ||
| May 23, 2014 at 17:11 | comment | added | Yishai | @rosenjcb Cognitive dissonance will explain the emotionalism of the response to a good question, assuming your attitude isn't contributing (it didn't come across that way so much in the question, but speaking it may). BTW, challenges to authority are not appreciated in many contexts, not just Jewish ones, they just don't necessarily express disapproval by defending the person as unassailable, they will do it in other ways. | |
| May 22, 2014 at 2:40 | comment | added | Shlomy | How can you think you have a proper argument to a genius of Torah who knows that matter way beyond an average person. Besides the fact that Hashem gives the gedolim extra assistance that they wont mess up. A person has the right to say they don't understand what they said because he has a question on it, but that does not reflect the gadol, that reflects his own lack of understanding. A person does have a right to question the gedolim, but he does not have a right to disagree with them. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 20:40 | comment | added | Bruce James | Lately I've been wondering why some "great" rabbis who disagree with each other cannot take the sort of respectful tone they expect from lay persons. One rabbi I'm close with told me that Judaism is great; not always our leaders. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 16:31 | answer | added | Baby Seal | timeline score: 6 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 8:41 | comment | added | preferred | @Double AA The tone of the question 'disagrees' sounds to me as being an arguement in svoro. I have learned much of the seforim mentioned and I have not yet come across something I 'disagree' to. I am afraid if this is the case the questioner must be lacking in his ability of knowing how to learn and should be using more 'basic' seforim first. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 6:40 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @Fred That actually sounds like the basis of an answer. The question wonders why such a non-response is allowed. Accusing the student of being irreverent doesn't alone explain why one can skip out on answering his question. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 5:37 | comment | added | Fred | Regarding a rebbe insulting/rebuking a student whose halachic opinions indicate flawed understanding due to inadequate study: judaism.stackexchange.com/a/14875 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 5:32 | comment | added | Fred | "...and if they're novice challenges, then they're rejected with logic and explanation quite quickly." Not necessarily. If the subject matter requires a high level of technical sophistication, and the novice evinces a lack of proficiency in the material, a brief explanation of the mistake often will not suffice. In some cases, this is true of Torah topics, as well. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 5:28 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @Yoni Perhaps, but the practical generalized point is very strong. Admitting a rabbi made a mistake is for most such an extremely far-fetched claim that it is basically a non-option. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 5:26 | comment | added | Yoni | @DoubleAA No authority in the Torah world assumes rabbis are infallible (like papal infallibility) and anyone who knew or knows great Halachik authorities also is well aware that they will admit errors or lack of knowledge. This concept of feeling "an assault on their exalted status" as you put it is a red herring | |
| May 21, 2014 at 5:24 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | judaism.stackexchange.com/q/27621/759 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 4:59 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | opposite judaism.stackexchange.com/q/34506/759 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 4:54 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | If you assume rabbis are infallible, then a question on one logical point is an assault on their exalted status. | |
| May 21, 2014 at 4:30 | answer | added | Yoni | timeline score: 13 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 4:17 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackJudaism/status/468968766962147328 | ||
| May 21, 2014 at 4:08 | history | edited | Shmuel |
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| May 21, 2014 at 4:07 | comment | added | Shmuel | Related: Iyov 38:1-2 | |
| May 21, 2014 at 4:04 | history | asked | rosenjcb | CC BY-SA 3.0 |