Timeline for Do non-toxic, biodegradable kitchen/dish cleaners pose a Kashruth problem?
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| Apr 12, 2013 at 20:26 | answer | added | Menachem | timeline score: 2 | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 20:22 | comment | added | Ariel | @SethJ No, my comment says that today, regular and fat based soap are the same as far as toxicity goes. (BTW How do you get food from what I wrote - I'm really confused about that. Is it because soap is made from fat or oil?) In the olden days soap was also toxic, from the lye, but that is not the case today. (Well, technically lye is corrosive, not toxic, but I don't think that matters here.) I can't answer your question about NT"L, but I can tell you that as far as I know there is no difference between regular and fat based soap for this. | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 19:37 | comment | added | Seth J | @Ariel, no I'm asking if it does, because on the one hand we have NT"L, and on the other hand, it's at least not harmful, even if not tasty. Your comment seems to strongly suggest that being remotely "edible", meaning non-toxic but definitely not palatable, makes it "food". | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 19:05 | comment | added | Ariel | @SethJ Um - why are you asking me? Isn't that what your question assumes, that it does make a difference? | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 19:05 | comment | added | Ariel | When they say "harsh" in reference to soap they mean residual lye in the soap which was a problem a long time ago. These days manufacturers are much more accurate in measurement and no lye is left. Non fat-based soaps (i.e. the regular cheap kind) never have a problem with lye. (So be careful when using halchas that mention soap being harsh - it's not anymore, none of it. But it does still taste bad.) | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 19:04 | comment | added | Seth J | @Ariel, if it's N"T LiFgam, what difference does it make what it's made of? | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 19:01 | comment | added | Ariel | Actually, virtually all soap is non-toxic and biodegradable. Soap tastes nasty though - even saponified fat (which is presumably the type you are talking about, as apposed to sodium lauryl and laureth sulfate). But make sure it's made from kosher oil, and not tallow. If you see tallowate it's treif. Many natural bar soaps are made from tallowate and it's questionable if you are allowed to wash yourself with that. (And I would definitely never use it for dishes.) | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 16:49 | history | edited | Seth J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 12, 2013 at 16:14 | history | edited | Seth J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 12, 2013 at 15:53 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | IIUC pagum doesn't stop taste transfer. It just makes the transferred taste not prohibitive | |
| Apr 12, 2013 at 15:40 | history | asked | Seth J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |