Timeline for Chovos Halevavos vs. Mesilas Yesharim
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| Sep 28, 2016 at 21:40 | comment | added | ray | ...Behold you can see that when the Ramchal explains that the external [zeal] awakens the internal [fieriness] he does not mention this in the chapter of Acquiring Zeal (ch.8) but rather in the chapter of the Divisions of Zeal (ch.7). But in the chapter of Acquiring Zeal he makes no mention whatsoever of the deeds! It is entirely devoted to the thoughts to think of in order to acquire Zeal. | |
| Sep 28, 2016 at 21:38 | comment | added | ray | "think on this and this point and acquire the trait of cleanliness." so too for each level. The primary path which the Ramchal explains is not on doing many acts and deeds or even words but rather the main path is thinking and contemplating. Only a few rare times he speaks the need for deeds to acquire a certain level but he writes it in such a way as to make clear that the main change is attained through thought and then the deeds are drawn to follow along | |
| Sep 28, 2016 at 21:38 | comment | added | ray | Nefesh HaMesila commentary to MY: it is possible for a person to read this book many times and miss the point entirely. We would like to emphasize the matter for it is such an important foundation of the book. When the Ramchal reveals how a person can change his nature and acquires the various successive levels, he reveals that the main path to use is "reflection and consideration". In the words of the Ramchal "hitbonenut" and "histaklut". he says "think on this and this point and acquire the trait of Watchfulness". (continued) | |
| Jan 4, 2015 at 6:00 | comment | added | MTL | I realize this is an old answer, but your link is dead. It's a great answer, regardless. | |
| Jan 3, 2015 at 18:04 | comment | added | Zeev Breiner | but you can read lev tov translation which is modern hebrew much easier than original language of Mesilat Yeshorim | |
| Aug 15, 2013 at 13:27 | comment | added | Chanoch | See this question for a discussion of whether one should study the philosophical proofs of God's existance in Chovot HaLevavot's Sha'ar HaYichud or not. | |
| Feb 20, 2013 at 15:23 | comment | added | eramm | Some secular people seem to grab on to the ordered lifestyle that the Torah offers so in that case MY is a good choice. Most Mussar teachers did not learn SHaar HaYichud and Shaar HaBechina. If Kiruv is the goal you may want to consider Derech HaShem as well | |
| Feb 20, 2013 at 14:52 | history | edited | eramm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 19, 2013 at 13:42 | history | edited | Gershon Gold | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 19, 2013 at 13:04 | history | answered | eramm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |