Timeline for Is it forbidden for the Jews to Establish a Nation of Israel?
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| Jan 17, 2017 at 23:34 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/821501040721805317 | ||
| Jan 17, 2017 at 23:23 | history | edited | msh210♦ |
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| Jan 6, 2017 at 10:09 | comment | added | HaLeiVi | That quote from the Maharal (Netzach Yisroel 26) is not quite accurate. Indeed, the Satmar Rebbe derived from there that he means to say Yehoreg Ve'al Yaavor. But what he says there is that even when they are killing us we shouldn't leave — based on the Gemara there that we were sworn by the generation of Shmad. Rabbi Hartman, who put out the new annotated Maharals, mentions this as well, and wonders how it went from this to Yehoreg Ve'al Yaavor. | |
| Dec 13, 2014 at 21:12 | answer | added | Bar Pinchas | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 3, 2013 at 13:56 | comment | added | Seth J | It's not "a lot of orthodox rabbis". Not by a long shot. | |
| Feb 18, 2013 at 4:25 | comment | added | knowit | One should speak the truth even if it is against our own selves as God will call to account all of us and God alone is our protector and hence should not hide the truth even if all the people of the world are against you | |
| Feb 18, 2013 at 4:22 | comment | added | knowit | @Fred i dont have any such ambitions nor i live in middle east , I just keep hearing a lot of these things in the media. And i came here to clarify and get the views of the jewish community who would certainly be in the best position to answer this question | |
| Feb 18, 2013 at 4:15 | history | edited | knowit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 17, 2013 at 19:49 | comment | added | Fred | Additionally, there are different interpretations of the Talmud that you cited, and it's used as a basis for opinions that disagree with each other. | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 19:31 | comment | added | Fred | Since you aren't asking about the evidence that both sides use for their positions, I'm concerned about the motivation behind your question. I'm also concerned that you may be trying to use the J.SE community as a workhorse to provide Biblical support for an unstated political agenda. || Further, you are conflating "the building of the nation of Israel" with unilaterally establishing a state via force without the approval of the international community, and the views that you cite were referring to the latter, not the former. | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 8:38 | history | edited | knowit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 17, 2013 at 6:26 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | (For any later readers, Hod's above comment was written just before the current set of quotations were added. He may (or may not) have changed his opinion since then.) | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 5:53 | history | edited | knowit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 17, 2013 at 5:40 | comment | added | HodofHod | As currently worded this is a good question. +1 | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 4:34 | history | edited | Isaac Moses♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 17, 2013 at 4:33 | comment | added | Isaac Moses♦ | ... In fact, presenting such strongly-worded quotations without referring to the contexts from which they came so that they can be evaluated in-context is not fair to either their subjects or their objects. Accordingly, I'm going to delete them and leave it to you to replace them along with references to where they came from. | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 3:08 | comment | added | Isaac Moses♦ | This question would be more valuable if you'd cite the sources for these quotations. | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 3:01 | history | edited | Isaac Moses♦ |
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| Feb 17, 2013 at 1:37 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @HachamGabriel "Are there any biblical evidences from Tanach for such views?" | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 1:35 | comment | added | Hacham Gabriel | No to which question? And source (even though it's a comment it would be nice). | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 1:30 | answer | added | moses | timeline score: 6 | |
| Feb 17, 2013 at 0:49 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | Your question doesn't match your title, and your various quotes don't say the same thing. | |
| Feb 16, 2013 at 23:47 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | No. | |
| Feb 16, 2013 at 5:04 | history | asked | knowit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |