Timeline for Is human flesh considered fleishik?
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| Sep 11, 2012 at 16:15 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @avi Nothing. There is no way to prove it from it's being called anything. It just depends what is in the category of Gedi: is it only goats? Behomot? Land animals? Vertebrates? Animals? Comes along our mesora and explains. | |
| Sep 11, 2012 at 9:19 | comment | added | avi | @DoubleAA Then what exactly does it need to be called? | |
| Sep 10, 2012 at 22:53 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @avi Just because it's called Basar doesn't make it the kind of Basar that is forbidden to mix with milk. | |
| Jul 6, 2012 at 2:23 | vote | accept | Argon | ||
| Jul 5, 2012 at 15:50 | comment | added | avi | Point is, the Torah calls Tzvi and Ayil Basar, and kosher. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 15:09 | comment | added | avi | טו רַק בְּכָל-אַוַּת נַפְשְׁךָ תִּזְבַּח וְאָכַלְתָּ בָשָׂר, כְּבִרְכַּת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ אֲשֶׁר נָתַן-לְךָ--בְּכָל-שְׁעָרֶיךָ; הַטָּמֵא וְהַטָּהוֹר יֹאכְלֶנּוּ, כַּצְּבִי וְכָאַיָּל. 15 Notwithstanding thou mayest kill and eat flesh within all thy gates, after all the desire of thy soul, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which He hath given thee; the unclean and the clean may eat thereof, as of the gazelle, and as of the hart. mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0512.htm That is the pasuk. I can't seak for others. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 15:05 | comment | added | YDK | @avi, Stone 12:22 doesn't say such. If you recall the source, i would be interested in seeing it. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 15:01 | comment | added | YDK | @avi, if it's pshat, why doesn't the mechaber and the shach agree to that. They distinguish between b'hema and chaya without qualification. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 14:58 | comment | added | avi | @YDK Stone Chumash I believe. But really, it's pshat. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 14:52 | comment | added | YDK | @avi, interesting drasha. Where is this brought? | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 13:55 | comment | added | avi | @YDK it's an explicit commandment from Gd/Moshe in Devarim. When you move into Israel, you can eat the cow sheep and goat without sacrifices if you live far away from the temple, just as you have been eating the Tzvi until now. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 13:29 | comment | added | YDK | @avi, Why is a tzvi not a chaya? And if you are going with the non-shulchan aruch/shach psak that chaya is fleish acc. to the torah, you should include foul as well. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 9:18 | comment | added | avi | @YDK Cow, sheep, goats, AND tzvi, are fleishig in the Torah. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 4:54 | comment | added | YDK | Sam, you should clarify that it isn't fleish acc. to the Torah because it isn't cow, sheep or goat. It isn't fleish from the Rabbis since there is no reason to put a gezeira on something that is assur from the torah. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 4:54 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @YDK Well that gets into the Rambam's nekuda niflaah, again not a universally agreed upon principle. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 4:51 | comment | added | YDK | @DoubleAA, I don't think there is an ain issur... issue since the second issur adds a restriction of hanaa. | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 3:40 | comment | added | Seth J | Ok, no joke intended here, but see my Purim Torah answer to the question about Haman being Basar BeHalav. Human flesh is an Isur 'Aseh (not Bitul 'Aseh) - or else not Asur at all. It has no status as meat. For purposes of BB"H. (Ping @doubleaa) | |
| Jul 5, 2012 at 3:19 | comment | added | sam | I hear,thats why I said not sure. | |
| Jul 4, 2012 at 23:54 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | I'm not so sure. The issue has to do with ein issur chal al issur, and if human is only assur as a bittul asei then the lav would be chal (unlike donkeys which are already issur lav). | |
| Jul 4, 2012 at 23:43 | history | edited | sam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 4, 2012 at 23:30 | history | answered | sam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |