Timeline for Rational approaches to superstitious ideas
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Oct 4, 2012 at 14:11 | history | edited | Isaac Moses♦ |
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Jun 13, 2012 at 3:33 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @yoel I stated that I was responding to the first question you asked. As for your second question above, the answer is Kavod HaTorah. I have enough Kavod for Chazal to make sure that all their words which I know they deliberately chose are meaningful and not gibberish. | |
Jun 13, 2012 at 1:25 | comment | added | yoel | @DoubleAA over Divrei Chazal that they obviously thought significant enough to include in Gemara? | |
Jun 13, 2012 at 0:12 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @yoel re the credibility of modern science vs historical science: I'll take something that is safek right over vadai wrong any day. | |
Jun 12, 2012 at 19:42 | comment | added | yoel | How is accepting the science of today any different than accepting the science held to by the Rambam or l'havdil the statements of Chazal (according to the opinion that they were just going off the science of their day by mistake c'v)? What is the basis within Judaism for concluding that today's science is certainly correct to the point that we need to bend Divrei Chazal to fit it? | |
Jun 12, 2012 at 18:59 | answer | added | Ariel K | timeline score: 2 | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 16:33 | comment | added | Charles Koppelman | @SethJ Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "come up with explanations on their own". Independent thought has been valued in traditional Judaism since the Talmud (at the latest). See this article on chiddush by orthodox rabbi, R' Julian Sinclair. And I've always learned that we don't hold by Chaza"l on science and midrash anyway. | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 14:33 | comment | added | Seth J | On the other hand, isn't Nishtaneh HaTeva' a 12th century version of this very idea? | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 14:32 | comment | added | Seth J | @CharlesKoppelman, Wait, don't misunderstand - I'm talking about mainstream Orthodox groups. If Reform encourages people to explore their beliefs freely (I'm not sure that's accurate or inaccurate, btw), that is not what I'm asking. If one shul on the south side of Chicago that runs as traditionally Orthodox but for survival's sake has an open-door policy and the rabbi has a study group once a month to present off-beat ideas to attract more members, I'm not sure I'd buy that either. | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 14:25 | comment | added | Charles Koppelman | @SethJ Absolutely there are forms of Judaism that allow and encourage people to come up with explanations of their own. | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 10:35 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackJudaism/status/211043741815939072 | ||
Jun 8, 2012 at 2:49 | comment | added | Seth J | @Menachem, look at the reaction to RaMBa"M's. | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 2:33 | comment | added | Menachem | @SethJ: Look at the reaction to Slifkin's books | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 2:18 | comment | added | Seth J | @Menachem, does any branch just allow/encourage people to just come up with explanations of their own? Conversely, does any branch say that this is absolutely inconsistent with our beliefs, that we must say Nishtaneh HaTeva', or that we are missing some knowledge that the sages had? | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 2:05 | comment | added | Menachem | depends which branch of orthodoxy you ask. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 21:57 | history | edited | Seth J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 7, 2012 at 21:37 | comment | added | msh210♦ | Related (thematically if not topically): judaism.stackexchange.com/q/4037 | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 21:33 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | If we're going to have both rabbis and sages-chazal, we're going to need good tag-wikis explaining when to use which. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 21:21 | history | asked | Seth J | CC BY-SA 3.0 |