Timeline for From the Torah itself how do we know that various names of God points to the same God?
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May 31, 2012 at 17:42 | comment | added | user4951 | Christians also believe that the whole bible (they got thicker bible) is God's words. Who knows. I am sure you think Paul must have made up most new testaments. I bet the Samaritan also think that the jews must have made up all the books after the Torah. Atheists would believe that all books including Torah are made up by jews. And those authors don't even agree with one another. Who am I to know who's wrong? | |
May 31, 2012 at 17:41 | comment | added | user4951 | That would be another interpretation. Not only that there is no other God, but it's okay to worship other gods as long as YHWH is "first". | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:56 | comment | added | jake | @sam, I agree with you; I'm playing devil's advocate here. The prohibition of idols and molten images is "לֹא-תַעֲשֶׂה לְךָ פֶסֶל, וְכָל-תְּמוּנָה". But before that already it says "לֹא-יִהְיֶה לְךָ אֱלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים, עַל-פָּנָי", which one could say means not to prohibit other (nonexistent) gods like the subsequent statement, but rather that of all the legitimate gods (Shaddai, El, etc.), I (YHWH) shall come first in the hierarchy; none should come "before me". | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:44 | comment | added | sam | @Jake the gods which are forbbiden is molten images which is avodah zarah and there are numorus examples of destroying other so called gods. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:39 | comment | added | sam | @Jim Thio from the word Bereishis(first word of bible) till Yisroel(last word) it is the same author, and the same God who created the world was the same God who spoke the Ten Commandments.Once one is more fluent in the bible then one can see the many links. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:33 | comment | added | jake | @sam, For the sake of argument, perhaps the dibros are YHWH talking and saying "I am YHWH your God... You shall have no other gods (i.e. Shaddai, El Elyon, Elohim etc.) before me..." All I'm saying is there is no proof from the aseres hadibros to what your saying. [And "anochi" just means "I" or "I am"; not necessarily uniquely. (Not everyone has to agree with Malbim.)] | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:32 | comment | added | user4951 | @sam. Hang on. What's Anochi again? Shema Yizrael. YHWH eloheinue, YHWH echad. I got that one right right? Oh that's not first commandment. That's another thing. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:28 | comment | added | sam | @jake Anochi Hashem... Anochi is one and once it starts with one the rest has to be the same.This is the simplest reading give it to a 5 year old and they will read it as such. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:25 | comment | added | user4951 | +1 anyway because it's a good point and because I always give +1 to all answers unless it really messes up. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:24 | comment | added | user4951 | This one is good enough actually. The question is not about whether God is one or not. The question is about whether from Torah alone one can reasonably conclude that the jews believe they have one God. Some, may still, however, argue that the God that speaks Ten commandments is not El Elyon (God most High) but one of his children that happen to baby sit Israel. thedivinecouncil.com/DT32BibSac.pdf | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:24 | comment | added | sam | If one doesnt believe then whats the question you could say any explanation and it cant be disputed. However,my reasoning is based on pure logic when an author writes they have to.be consistent esp when one writes an explicit idea. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:22 | comment | added | jake | Those commandments do not claim that there is only one God. It just says "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me", which one could argue actually implies that there are more than one. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:19 | comment | added | HodofHod | But the question is not from the perspective of a believer. | |
May 30, 2012 at 15:14 | history | answered | sam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |