Timeline for Commencing Shabbos: Shkiya behind a mountain
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| Mar 29, 2012 at 12:11 | comment | added | ChaimKut | As a datapoint, Maaleh Adumim in Israel is only slightly east of Jerusalem, but is found below the mountain range surrounding Jerusalem. Perceived sunset is therefore about 20 minutes prior to perceived sunset in Jerusalem. The chief rabbis of the city therefore are stringent in Torah-related matters (דאורייתא) and consider Shabbat to arrive 20 minutes earlier for those matters (in deference to the ruling of Rabbi Nachum Rabinovitz as per his understanding of the Rambam). For all other matters, they rule sunset to be according to the horizon. | |
| Mar 29, 2012 at 6:32 | comment | added | msh210♦ | Note: This was penned as an answer to another question, which was thereafter merged hither. | |
| Mar 29, 2012 at 6:31 | history | post merged (destination) | |||
| Mar 28, 2012 at 23:38 | comment | added | YDK | I see from the OU that both sunset times are given because there is a "difference of opinion" (as opposed to straight Rav Moshe where sea-level horizon is meikar hadin and any differences are chumra.) Sunrise is inconsequential in Yerushalaim re the machlokes. | |
| Mar 28, 2012 at 23:32 | comment | added | yitznewton | Not according to the OU pesak in my answer, IIUC | |
| Mar 28, 2012 at 21:53 | comment | added | YDK | @yitznewton, elevation becomes a factor at tzeis when the person can see 3 stars, which is based on the sun's light (or rather lack thereof). Meikar hadin, shkiah is constant relative to the plane (no mountain/valley). | |
| Mar 28, 2012 at 20:57 | comment | added | yitznewton | Based on my Internet roamings on this earlier, there are two elevations: that of the person, and that of the horizon. IOW both being higher/lower myself, and the terrain at the horizon, are factors in the time of the sun's apparent setting. The question regards the horizon, but it sounds like the teshuvah you cite is dealing with the elevation of the person. | |
| Mar 28, 2012 at 19:19 | history | answered | YDK | CC BY-SA 3.0 |